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General => TechTalk => Topic started by: mastergunny on October 25, 2007, 01:08:11 PM

Title: Starter Seals
Post by: mastergunny on October 25, 2007, 01:08:11 PM
Can anyone tell me how many seals are on the starter and where I might get them.

Seals=
O'Rings=

Gee, I take a look and see if there is a tech article on the starter.

Matt
Title: Re: Starter Seals
Post by: ironb12s on October 25, 2007, 03:28:24 PM
Ask and thou shall receive:

http://www.ridersofvision.net/Technical/Starter/starter.html (http://www.ridersofvision.net/Technical/Starter/starter.html)

Don't look now, but I think it's been done before?     ;D
Title: Re: Starter Seals
Post by: h2olawyer on October 25, 2007, 07:22:53 PM
Seals - 1 in the nose.  Available at NAPA or other auto parts stores.  I don't have the Chicago Rawhide # handy, but I'm sure someone does.

O-Rings - 2 square cut.  Still available from Yamaha, but they want like $14 each for them.  Mine were expanded whan I did the seal replacement.  I managed to reuse them by getting the starter mostly tightened together & slowly stuffing them back into place.  Kind of a PITA, but it worked for me.

H2O
Title: Re: Starter Seals
Post by: Night Vision on October 25, 2007, 09:18:09 PM
Quote from: h2olawyer on October 25, 2007, 07:22:53 PM
Seals + 1 in the nose.  Available at NAPA or other auto parts stores.  I don't have the Chicago Rawhide # handy, but I'm sure someone does.

O-Rings - 2 square cut.  Still available from Yamaha, but they want like $14 each for them.  Mine were expanded whan I did the seal replacement.  I managed to reuse them by getting the starter mostly tightened together & slowly stuffing them back into place.  Kind of a PITA, but it worked for me.

H2O

H2O.... what do you mean by "Seals + 1 in the nose" ?

there are three o-rings and the nose seal... two o-rings are the square ones on the case, the other o-ring is a round one that goes on the outside of the nose that goes into the engine case.

the nose seal is Chicago Rawhide oil seal #7917

I don't think your square cut o-rings "expanded" out of the ordinary... so far, I've done three starters and all of them needed to have the square o-rings "finessed" back into place.... you just slowly tighten and work them back in as you go.... they do go back to where they were, and don't leak if done correctly... 
Title: Re: Starter Seals
Post by: h2olawyer on October 25, 2007, 11:44:36 PM
Finger slipped & I didn't proofread.  "Seals - 1 in the nose."  Fixed.

I think of the engine case / starter O-ring as part of the engine instead of the starter - maybe because mine stayed there when I took the starter out.  Forgot about it.   ::)

H2O
Title: Re: Starter Seals
Post by: couchflyer on February 01, 2008, 04:15:42 PM
Napa said this is a 20mm X 35mm X 6mm seal and their part number is: 7917 NOS
Title: Re: Starter Seals
Post by: Kevin on February 01, 2008, 07:35:18 PM
I have the o rings for the starter nose piece. If anyone needs one.
Title: Re: Starter Seals
Post by: jasonm. on February 02, 2008, 03:04:16 PM
you can always seal the starter using "Permatex ultra grey" instead of $14 o-rings. The internal seal...I still have a few better than OEM.
Title: Re: Starter Seals
Post by: Rick G on February 03, 2008, 12:48:28 AM
Thanks Jason , I'll try the Permatex Ulta Grey , next time .
Title: Re: Starter Seals
Post by: jasonm. on February 06, 2008, 05:26:00 PM
another trick...sounds crazy. But everyone knows that car oil filters use "square" o-rings. These o-rings do come off. I took a few off. But I don't remember which one fits our starter. But these oil filter ones are a bit thicker. But if you have a way of trimming them down...?  A simple measurement is all you need.