So I have a friend who has seen my bike and thought it to be like a sport bike like some ducatti or something. Anyway long story made short he just bought a 2008 goldwing and wants to race me, now if it was like a ducatti I would win no prob. But we know it's not one, what do you think my chances would be against a goldwing. I know their engine sizes but I also know they weigh 1k Ibs.
I think it will be pretty even race until you get up to 75-80 mph and by then I hope you have a safe place to do this. He's probably only shifting out of second gear by then and your going into 5th.
If there is twisties you win hands down.
K, Thx guys and I will be sure to keep it safe.
unless you are going to race in an enclosed , sanctioned facility- i suggest you tweak the rules to your side . and keep in mind . the new goldwings come in several models -- our city police are now riding the gold wing interceptors- (they require certification from road race schools to even qualify for upgrade from older harley cop bikes)
set race route in your favor, no exceeding speed limit, lots of turns, ,u-turns ,and cross town traffic stuff. gold wing will eat you on a long run ,but rider will tire quickly and may not be able to make the route if enough turns are there.
i just run them on country roads, with one or two road changes involving dirt roads-- that usually eliminates a big bike .
Quote from: kev10104 on July 30, 2010, 09:56:28 AM
If there is twisties you win hands down.
Look for the "Wings on the Dragon" on youtube. Yellow Wolf on his yellow goldwing is insane. Looks like hes going into some of the corners upwards of 60mph. (as seen on the speedo in the video).
Heres one of them, but not the higher quality one I was looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nrMQ3QwyPo
David
Goldwings are very rideable, they're ideal for carrying beer camping to the campsite.
In a straight line you'll get spanked by virtually any goldwing or gl1000 (i dunno about a real early model, but they're not slow). Depends on the rider but a decently skilled rider on each with no fairings on either and stock everything you'd be about even. Older goldwings might be heavy but they have just as much ground clearance and accelerate about as good.
:'(
Oh, and a 2008 goldwing is *not* a slow bike, might be heavy but thats a huge motor with really good engine management.
I ride with a bunch of Wingers all the time and the Vision will spank them in any situation but top gear roll ons from low speeds. We haven't tried any top speed runs with the Vision ,but they're not competitve at high speeds compared to my ST1300 or K100. I always get that "are you sure you can keep up on a 550?" from new guys and later, "are you sure that's just a 550?"
On Oatman road, near Kingman, no one has stayed with me , while on my Vision. Except , Jim Coyle on another Vision.
On High way 18 , which has larger turns , Ron McCoy , On his brand new Honda, VF 1300 (I think that's the model) with bags and wife on board was about 10 feet back, every time I looked in my mirror!!!!!!
It depends on how skilled the two riders are and haw twisty the road is, as well as the roads condition. just be careful, don't get in over your head!
Quote from: Rick G on August 01, 2010, 02:59:15 AM
On Oatman road, near Kingman, no one has stayed with me , while on my Vision. Except , Jim Coyle on another Vision.
On High way 18 , which has larger turns , Ron McCoy , On his brand new Honda, VF 1300 (I think that's the model) with bags and wife on board was about 10 feet back, every time I looked in my mirror!!!!!!
It depends on how skilled the two riders are and haw twisty the road is, as well as the roads condition. just be careful, don't get in over your head!
I did :P
That was because ,I proceeded much more slowly than usual. I had no desire to get two young guys , who were 1000 miles from home killed .
Don't get me wrong I was the one challenged. plus I kinda want to know what the vision has against an 1800.
if you can say 'yes' to BOTH these 2 questions, then accept the chalenge, otherwise, walk away:
1) do you feel you can beat a bike with twice the engine size?
2) do you routinely get your ass off the seat in a corner?
Lucky, I barely have had this thing running for more then 5 miles at a times :'(. It is finally fixed I pick it up today so now I can find out. Besides this I own a honda 1982 cm250. And had a 2003 honda shadow for a year before I sold it, I had it while I was in the military on station in the south.
Quote from: Rick G on August 02, 2010, 03:20:18 AM
That was because , proceeded much more slowly than usual. I had no desire to get two young guys , who were 1000 miles from home killed .
Looked like you were trying pretty hard there rick, never seen anyone try to flat track a street bike on pavement :D
Yeah, Ive seen that video a few times. Also seen that happen a few times as well. That was freakin crazy on the part of the bikers to try to overtake the pickup and pass it.
David
I've seen so many of those crash videos, you can almost pick the exact point where the rider has decided hes going to crash. The guy in the vid could have eaaaasily made it, but he decided he was already going to crash and or got target fixated.
I agree, he rode exactly where he was looking. Moral of the story, when in a tough spot rather than panic try and make the turn. You never know, you might just make it!
I forgot to mention my favorite part of the Gold Wing video: you can hear metal scraping (floorboards?) around nearly every turn. Cool! :)
A good friend of mine had a Venture for several years. He wore out lots of low down hard parts. You could see sparks on many turns! Never went down and always grinned about all the scraping. One of his jobs is a motorcycle safety instructor. He could do the figure 8s in the tight box (used in the experienced class) with the Venture. Unfortunately, the bike finally just wore out - it was a 93 with over 200,000 miles on it. Was truly amazing to watch him ride that bike fast in the twisties.
H2O