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General => TechTalk => Topic started by: hmmmnz on January 09, 2010, 08:21:53 AM

Title: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: hmmmnz on January 09, 2010, 08:21:53 AM
im just curious really,
the only way. well a couple of variations of.. is

twist the throttle 3 or 4 times,
then presss the start button and at the same time "pump" the throttle.

she just wont start any other way, when shes cold atleast
choke doesnt help,


so whats your method????
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: Re-Vision on January 09, 2010, 08:41:47 AM
Full Choke, twist throttle once, then start.   BDC
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: Lucky on January 09, 2010, 11:13:11 AM
Every Vision seems to be different, each with it's own ritual...
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: 67GTO on January 09, 2010, 12:44:27 PM
My red 82: Choke, twist twice, hit the starter, back off the choke alittle, waite about a minute, choke off. :)

My Black 83: Choke, twist,crank,twist,crank,twist,crank,twist,crank,twist,crank,cough,twist,crank,caugh,twist,
                   crank,caugh,twist,crank,caugh,caugh,run,die,twist,crank,run,die,twist,crank,run,die,twist crank,run :(
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: sunburnedaz on January 09, 2010, 12:54:25 PM
Silver cold: 1/8th choke, 2 good twists, crank, fires, idle for 2 to 3 minutes before zeroing choke, then ride.
Silver warm: crank, fire, ride.
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: Lucky on January 09, 2010, 01:49:59 PM
exactly the same except my 82 used to be red, lol Goat, I think they need valve adjustments....

Quote from: 67GTO on January 09, 2010, 12:44:27 PM
My red 82: Choke, twist twice, hit the starter, back off the choke alittle, waite about a minute, choke off. :)

My Black 83: Choke, twist,crank,twist,crank,twist,crank,twist,crank,twist,crank,cough,twist,crank,caugh,twist,
                  crank,caugh,twist,crank,caugh,caugh,run,die,twist,crank,run,die,twist,crank,run,die,twist crank,run :(
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: funkamongus on January 09, 2010, 01:54:20 PM
Cold:
full choke, twist, twist, hit the button.
Warm:
Start and go.
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: 67GTO on January 09, 2010, 07:13:43 PM
Lucky: So the hard starting maybe the valves out of adjustment?
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: louie on January 10, 2010, 03:51:20 PM
mine i put the choke at about half, then hold the throttle about 1/16 of a turn hit the button and wait for it to fire once and then twist a little more. But like i read earlier in this segment "every bike is different" and trust me these bikes are like 16 year old girls. they have a mind of their own and one day their great and the next their a total bitch  :)
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2010, 07:29:41 PM
Choke all the way, twist the throttle 2 times, then hit the starter button and twist a little more.

There is a sweet spot in there that makes her start right up.

But i only do this when the motor is cold, once it's warmed up ( like if i have been inside a store for a few minutes after riding there ) i just leave it as is and push the starter button.  Maybe a little twist on the throttle to find that sweet spot

Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: inanecathode on January 11, 2010, 12:50:40 AM
Lately after its been stored:
Choke
Prime...
...
...
...
Twist throttle
Repeat above about 50 times
Try to start it
Twist throttle
Try to start it again
Repeat above five steps another dozen times

Ride.
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: YellowJacket! on January 11, 2010, 10:07:31 AM
Cold:
Walk around it three times
Half Choke
Twist throttle three times
Give it a slight twist of throttle while hitting the start button.

Warm:
Stand there and look at it a minute
Twist throttle once or twice.
Give a little throttle while hitting start button and go

David
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: Lucky on January 11, 2010, 09:46:07 PM
that's my suspition
Quote from: 67GTO on January 09, 2010, 07:13:43 PM
Lucky: So the hard starting maybe the valves out of adjustment?
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: fret not on January 12, 2010, 01:08:30 AM
No wonder these things eat starters!  Well, some of them anyway.
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: sunburnedaz on January 12, 2010, 12:30:18 PM
I just thought that starters tasted good with some fava beans and a nice chianti
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Post by: Night Vision on January 12, 2010, 07:03:49 PM
I use one of these......
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here's a link for a rebuilt one and repair kits...

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Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: jasonm. on January 17, 2010, 12:02:07 PM
all the Visions I have had ...have had slightly diifferent cold start procedures. The main question is HOW long has the bike been sitting since last run. And if it was a hot day last time. Reason being hot engine on a hot day when stopped. The gas evaporates quickly from these bowls. Also the 82's have richer idle jets and from my experience need less twisting of the throttle. But my rule is NEVER twist while cranking unless it's already flooded...this ain't an old 2 stroke.  I have flooed my '83 - 3 times. Each was a result of pumping the throttle before attempting to start. I.E.> it didn't need the gas. My '83 If sitting more than a week it usually requires one or 2 twists before cranking. I have an electric fuel pump. So for everyone else...turn it to "prime". My '82 was a gem. Never needing any twisting. No matter how long it sat. ANd only needing choke when stone cold. These all need choke when cold. Heck...that's what it's there for.  If you have an '82 that needs constant twisting to start along w/choke...your bike has issues.  Maybe minor...but none the less- has issues.
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: funkamongus on January 18, 2010, 09:05:36 PM
I have to say that in my case,, that is totally possible,, I havent gone all the way through it yet.
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: jono1798 on January 20, 2010, 02:39:23 PM
I tried lots of the different variations of starting listed above and more until my old girl let me know she was alive. What worked for me won't necessarily work for you it seems, but all I did was-

Full choke
2 full pulls on the throttle
wait 5-7 seconds
hit the starter button
while the starter is rotating i pull the throttle again about a 1/4 pull
Then I hear the dulcet tones of a roaring engine

She's not ready to ride yet but at least I know there's life in her.
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: funkamongus on January 21, 2010, 12:54:16 PM
Typical,, they all like different foreplay so that we cannot, as a group, come up with one thing that will work every time... Sound familiar to anyone else??????
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: nwrider on January 22, 2010, 10:23:25 PM
I guess I'm fortunate, I don't have any starting issues.

Engine Cold (40-50 air temp): Full choke, 2 twists, starts right up, let warm for 1 min, ride and remove choke.
Engine warm: hit start button, ride away  :D

Ben
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: louie on January 25, 2010, 09:56:07 PM
hey funk you got that one right. everyone i talk to says something different. I dont think any one vision is anything like the next one (besides the look of it)
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: Lucky on January 25, 2010, 11:08:41 PM
Lol, you haven't seen enough Visions, or mine!  :>

Quote from: louie on January 25, 2010, 09:56:07 PM
I dont think any one vision is anything like the next one (besides the look of it)
Title: Re: whats your technique..... for starting your bike??
Post by: kev10104 on January 26, 2010, 02:48:23 PM
I give full choke then 3 twists while on prime and then she fires up.When it is warm no need to do anything although I have noticed the last bit of riding I had to put the choke on full if she sat for half an hour or more or she will stall.