Looks like I might have damaged the o-ring when reinstalling my rebuilt starter. I have an oil leak between the case and the starter. I read somewhere here in this forum you can pull the starter without draining the oil by leaning the bike on one side. Which side is it, lean to the right I guess? I tried the search function, no results...
Thanks, Thomas
I would go with right!
Thanks Raj. Worked just fine. You know where to find those starter o-rings? Will try the local stores on Monday, hopefully they have something that fits.
Thanks, Thomas
don't know the size, but they are metric. any oring on this bike will be metric.
this is just one of those problems peculair to the bike. Specters Vision got a NEW oring & it driped. so it got a new oring & RTV & it still drips.
it's ok though, we'll just park next to Harleys, no one will say a word, lol
When I pulled out the starter the 'new' o-ring I used when I installed it was cut... Will be a bit more careful when I put the starter back. A drip a day would not bother me, but half the size of a dollar bill overnight is just too much.
Greasing up the opening that the "O" ring slides into, as well as the ring itself after it's mounted on the starter, may help inserting the starter without damaging the ring.
Found the size: 41mm x 1.78mm (1-5/8 ID 1-3/4 OD 1/16 W). If I can't find it at a dealer I'll order it at allorings.com (they come in 25 per bag ....)
QBS - I'll use a lot of grease next time. The first time I used only very little, or better, too little.
Hi Tommy,
Be sure to check the Bore of the engine case for nicks,cracks or damage, or maybe the O ring indentation on the starter had a sharp edge, it won't matter how many "O" rings you install if the problem is elsewere. ;)
Cheers Ken S.
why they couldnt chamfer the mounting hole ill never understand...
Update: Did not find o-rings 1/16th wide locally, so I tried one 3.1 mm (around 1/8th) wide. Although it looked like a perfect fit, I was not able to push the starter back into the hole. After a while the ring just got sheered in half... Ordered a 25 pack of high quality VITON 1-5/8 x 1/16th o-rings at Grainger. Will keep you guys posted.
Thomas
Found this post:
SKF Starter Lip Seal Info by akvision
... for Seal Info:
I was looking through my "V" ...
... have been questions about acquiring starter lip seals. I am fresh out. All I had, ...
... . 563017
spec= CR 20X35X6 HMS 5 RG
SKF Seals phone 1-847-742-7840 Elgin, IL
...
... I bought them they were under $2 per seal...it is the shipping that is a killer.
...
... diagnosing the BluV....the starter was way ugly...it is amazing it even ...
s post:
Thanks 67GTO - This discussion is about the o-ring, not the shaft seal. But same experience: Easy to find on the internet, but shipping is 5 times the actual cost. grainger.com ships for free to the local store.
I understand the post is about the o-ring and I don't want to hijack or add confusion but now I'm wondering....
Tommy, was there oil in the stater motor when you disassembled it?
Does the post 67GTO quoted (I don't feel like looking it up!) suggest the seal was replaced once by AKvision?
If it was replaced once, how long ago (years and/or mile) was that? Is the integrity of the seal something to check periodically?
Now I wished I'd drilled a weep hole as was suggested by someone here... :(
I rebuilt the starter with a (NOS?) kit from eBay, and a high quality shaftseal the previous owner of the bike gave me. The starter has been working great, except for that leak where the starter is mated to the crankcase. I remember the replacement o-ring seemed to be a bit too large, it was probably too old.
Don't think this thread is being hijacked ;) my response to 67GTO was just a clarification, nothing else. I really appreciate all the help I'm getting here.
Thanks, Thomas
I've used the eBay starter kits and orings and haven't had any problems....
sourcing the oring for the nose is a bitch...
if you do source some that work, buy plenty of them..... I'd buy 3 or 5 off ya
Night Vision - PM sent.
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OK, picked up the new o-rings today. They are 1.6mm wide; the broken one from the rebuild kit is 1.9mm.... Did go ahead and installed it anyway, will report tomorrow if it is still leaking.
Rode the bike last night. As of this morning no oil leaks from the starter nose. Considering this a success. Now I have a leak at the left crankcase cover. I guess I did not seal the cables and grommets properly..... arrggghhh... it never stops!
Another possible leak source on the left side is the shift shaft seal.