It's the other/new going racing thread...
I have finally got motivated and am going to 'have a crack' at track racing. I'm prepping a 2005 Triumph Daytona at the moment to start on in BEARS racing and will ride in moderns in another club (CAMS=Classic Action Motor Sport). I'm joining CAMS to get involved with pre 89 etc as I have a few old bikes. The current project for pre 89 is a mid eighties gs550 (gsx550 in NZ) but one day I might get the Vision to the track as well although I'd be wasting my time as it's only a 400. Ah well it's only for a bit of fun anyway..... ;)
Does your new club offer a track orientation "class"? It's good to know what they require in regard to technical safety, equipment allowed, etc.
It will be an entertaining experience for sure. Been there, done that. The track is definitely the place for aggressive riding, NOT on public roads. :police:
Yeah there is a development class where everyone wears hi vis vest and gets followed by a more experienced rider for tips and pointers. I was told by my mate that I need to take my riding to the track as there was no way he'd ride like that on the road lest he killed himself. Then he rides his dirt bike up a hill that I looked at and thought no way lest I kill myself! I'm looking forward to it immensely, about a month to go.
Cool, this should be fun to follow! Glad to hear you're taking your fast riding to the track where it's safer for everyone. ;) Seriously, when racing you'll find people more apt to follow the rules compared to out on the roadways. Plus, everyone is usually going in the same direction which reduces head on collisions. :)
What kind of prep is involved for the Daytona?
At this stage I'm just taking off everything I possibly can and blanking off holes in fairing etc. Have got some slicks from a guy that races a superbike, 2 sets for $100. Removing secondary air injection, aftermarket can and a remap. That's all for now. Don't really want to go too fast, would rather get involved with the older stuff.
I can't help myself, I'm in lightening mode again. Got an enlargement of my wiring diagram and set to work. Have removed just under 1kg of wiring and connectors only and I'm not finished with it yet, that's just the stuff that doesn't go directly to ecu and all the important bits. Will probably go to 520 chain and sprockets, maybe a lightweight rear brake caliper and rotor as back wheel will be barely touching ground under braking anyway. Unfortunately I'm going to have to spend on springs to match my weight so I can get suspension dialled in well, but its much easier to put bike on diet rather than myself.
Two weeks to go roughly. Just found out that the BEARS club are trialling a new class, Formula 1 B class. This is great as it caters for 675 triples, 600/650 fours and 750 twins. This means that I won't get passed by Aprilia RSV1000 and BMW 1000RR etc. My friend has just bought a Ducati 748sps so we will be racing together ;D
Was left in the lurch with my leathers as the woman I took them to for alteration had them for 4 weeks before she decided to nearly double the written quote! Needless to say I will not recommend her to anybody (business name: Stitch in Time). I was lucky to find a set on trademe.co.nz in my size so I snapped them up quickly (US 52) as tall leathers don't appear too often. Off to shave some bolts in the lathe now....
Got some fancy plastic to make crash bobbins with and turned up my first one last night. Paid $80/m for 50mm rod so way cheaper than buying them in a packet. Will use high tensile bolts for frame bobbins and have got some semi tensile ((forgot grade)still have to make threads) rod for the axles. Also cut stock muffler in half and removed all the guts except perforated steel and packing. Dropped over 2.5kgs just by doing this. Not as ideal as the Yoshi I have for it but it remains stock mounting rather than cutting and welding at this stage. There is a baffle of sorts in pipe before the end can so hope it doesn't get black flagged at the track where 95db is the limit. I have downloaded Tune ECU and my mate has the plug (common diagnostic plug to most cars) so will be able to change maps to avoid it running too lean. Will also be handy to turn off all the fault codes that are no longer applicable, such as cooling fan which is no longer there (heavy old thing lol). Will post up some photos soon so you can see what I'm talking about, although its a busy weekend with Anzac day tomorrow, a trail ride on Sunday, promised the boy I would get his new bike sorted, promised my wife everything she said I promised her...
I'd be curious to see what the inside of a stock muffler looks looked like. Post those pics when you can.
I've got a DB meter if you want to check before track day.
Rikugun, unfortunately the end can was hacked and bashed gradually so it's going to be difficult to see how it should be from a pile of mangled metal. But it did resemble a Honda Hornet one that I debaffled sometime ago, lots of reversing flow etc. It was very quiet when on bike, but its earsplitting loud now which brings me to decibels.....
POD, yes please. It would be great to get an idea if I'm in the noise zone before I get black flagged. I saw dB meters in Jaycar catalog just this morning and wondered if the cheap one would tell the story correctly. The pricey ones I can't justify. I could use one for when my wife is chewing me out about not tidying up, so I would know at what point to call noise control. :'(
Mine's just a cheapie, but should get you in the zone.
95db at the track is measured at about 10 metres, at the WOF station at only a meter, and cops stick their meters right up your pipes. It makes a huge difference since sound pressure follows the inverse square law
Cool, you made me look that up but it's pretty simple as it turns out. Just sounded scary. BTW I know I live in the boonies but no cop is sticking anything up my pipe! Squeal like a pig boy.........eeeeee!!
"Deliverance" references never seem to fall out of vogue. :)
Quote from: Rikugun on April 25, 2015, 07:36:58 AM
"Deliverance" references never seem to fall out of vogue. :)
Especially if you live out Oxford way
I have no comeback.
Got some pics for you guys at last. Not quite ready to go but very close. A rolled ankle and ligament damage have put this on hold for a while but I did a trail ride last weekend, about 90km and seem to be ok, so off to the track very soon.
Off to Ruapuna raceway tomorrow with my buddy and his Ducati. Will just be a shake down day to set up suspension and get familiar with riding a sportbike after 25 years. The power to weight figures on this bike will be the best I've ridden and should put my 135hp Speed Triple to shame.
Have fun, and don't let yourself get turned into a Ducati fanboy
A bit late for that, I've already seen Radical Ducati's builds. Very tasty stuff although I read they have shut up shop now. You should quit work, send your wife out to earn money and come along to track on Fridays too.
Radicals look really expensive. You'll be flogging off more than the ST to get enough parts to build one of those
Well I got out on track today and wasn't a complete success. My gear change lever broke after my epoxy repair. My side cover seeped oil after my epoxy repair spreading oil on the back tyre. I was using old touring tyres that were on the bike when I got it and wasn't really laying it over as they hadn't been fully scrubbed in. Bike runs really well but will take some getting used to before I can get the suspension tuned in. I haven't got tyre warmers yet but this is a priority now as I want slicks on before I ride again so I will feel more comfortable powering through corners. Did get a bit of wheelie action coming out of the dipper. ;D Anyway got in half a dozen laps so that's a start. School holidays for two weeks now so the kids and I will be mucking around down the back paddock on the dirt bike track I'm making. POD, if you fancy a squirt round on it I've got a spare bike and don't worry about dropping it because that's what they're made for.
Epoxy ! Epoxy is for punks. Don't you have a perfectly good welder in the shed?
Your own personal dirt bike track sounds awesome. Love to give it a go one weekend. Now I'll have to build a vision scrambler as well.
If I had a perfectly good welder in the shed he/she could weld up a whole lotta stuff.
A Vision scrambler would be pretty cool, but shaft drive?
You should join me at CPIT welding school (http://www.cpit.ac.nz/study-options/qualifications-and-courses/course-display?course=170259&title=Gas%20Tungsten%20Arc%20Welding%201)on Mondays
If I do a scrambler, it will need a chain drive conversion I think. And some proper spoked wheels.
Sounds all pretty terrifying to me. I am just happy to get my speedo working again. Many thanks Dingleberry!
Maybe we might get you gentlemen up from the 'other island" for our Wanganui Cemetery Curcuit races - held every year on boxing day since 1951.
I've been here for about three months now, (survived the floods OK) but still haven't found out who built that yellow xz550 tracker that was sold on TradeMe
Quote from: pinholenz on August 29, 2015, 09:11:13 AM
Maybe we might get you gentlemen up from the 'other island" for our Wanganui Cemetery Curcuit races - held every year on boxing day since 1951.
It makes a lot of sense to have the street races around the cemetary - less far to travel after you fail to make the hairpin. 8)
I, unfortunately will be packing up my house over the Christmas break to get my earthquake repairs done. No bike racing for me.
Good to hear that your earthquake repairs are getting sorted, its only five years on almost. As for the cemetery circuit count me out, that would cost a whole lot of money I don't have. In fact, racing bike may have to be sold as well as a few others just to recover from the bad year we have had with our business. Having a road closure for most of a year due to sewer pipe replacement (good old earthquake again) has not helped our finances.
Quote from: dingleberry on August 30, 2015, 10:06:48 PM
Good to hear that your earthquake repairs are getting sorted, its only five years on almost. As for the cemetery circuit count me out, that would cost a whole lot of money I don't have. In fact, racing bike may have to be sold as well as a few others just to recover from the bad year we have had with our business. Having a road closure for most of a year due to sewer pipe replacement (good old earthquake again) has not helped our finances.
Only sorted in that I'm taking a third mortgage out to pay for them myself. The utter Sam Hunts at the Earthquake Commission won't do anything except paint over the cracks literally.
Since we are both broke, how would you like to collaborate on a zero cost Vision project to build an XZ550 version of this?
I could definitely contribute to the zero cost part. I'm sure our version would be sans Sands.