Some of the folks over on another board were evil and got my curiosity up about the Triumph site. Now along with the '07 Kawi Mean Streak SE I now have these in my wannabe barn:
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2008 Triumph America (black & one of the reds)
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2008 Triumph Daytona 675 Special Edition
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2008 Triumph Scrambler
All the Triumphs are chain-driven but ah well. lol I don't actually have experience with chain bikes to not like 'em, it's just everyone I've known who has one tends to complain about chain grease/lube/whatever all over things. The first and last also aren't likely to win any muscle competitions at but 800+ccs they should do plenty well enough. :) They'd be something different, and the Scrambler looks about like a dual sport of sorts.
I do love my
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I want a Meanie BAAAADDD. ;D
David
I LIKE KEVIN'S SPRINT!!!
The Bonniville America dosn't do much for me , BUT the Scrambler or the Bonniville Thruxton only await my 2nd ship comming in (the first one obviously has sunk)
Thruxton: I loooooove that bike. I wish I could sue Triumph for stealing my Vision's design though.
;D
Re. chain drive: The only advantages for it are: lighter un-suspended weight (so better, quicker reaction from the rear shock), and easier to change the final drive ratio. Those become only significant on the race track... So having a chain on a street bike... ???
My humble opinion... ;)
Lou
Servicability as well. A catastrophic failure with a chain is easily fixable. Finding a driveshaft whilst on the road is an adventure of its own i'd imagine :o
Triumph makes some great rides. The Speed Triple looks pretty cool, the Thruxton is awesome, but the Scrambler is really growing on me.
As for repairs of catastrophic chain failure, it depends on how much other damage the slung chain does. ::) At least the shaft drive on the Vs is not a problem area. They seem to be nearly bulletproof.
H2O
They sure are, i dont think i've read of one drive shaft failure.
If you keep oil in the rear gear box , your not going to have a "shaft failure"
If you don't maintain your chain and sprockets, or use them far beyond the service linits , catastrophic is far to mild a term to use . When a chain wads up in the countershaft sprocket cavity , usually, the engine is stove in and there can be gear box damage. Oil shoots all over the place! Occasionally the chain will try to remove the leg of the rider , on the way by, or at least open it up and cause a massive infection.
In my younger years, I was involved in repair of several CB750 Hondas, which had suffered a "catastrophiic " chain failure. Aside from a complete engine tear down , the services of a expert welder and a machine shop are needed, to return them to service.
I got about 24k out of my Sprint chain....I've had it for the last 13k and have kept wax on it. Cleaned occasionally with kerosene completely but otherwise just used and abused. Will be replacing this winter tho. The last track day finished her off.
I'm using Artic Cat chain lube , on the XL350. Its a graphite lube . Its compatable with O ring chains and dosen't attract sand or dirt . Years ago I used a foaming , spray chain lube (can recall the name) removed the chain every week and washed it in the gunk tank , to get the sand out.
Quoteremoved the chain every week and washed it in the gunk tank
now that's devotion
Kwells , we all did that , we would work on our dirt bikes every monday . The shop was open, but it was the wrench's day off . so we would go out to the desert every sunday and thrash our bikes and spend monday getting them ready for the next week. Chains were not as good as now and until Dryslide came along (which was similar to Artic Cats lube ) we had to use gooy stuff which mixed with the sand and made laping compound. We sold a LOT of chains and sprockets. ;D
That's my point. Driveshaft: change the oil once a year - ride it forever.
Plus, there's a conical gear of some sort in there which looks a lot better than a sprocket, purely from an aestetical point of view.
(what the heck's wrong with me)
Lou
Quote from: louthepou on January 06, 2008, 07:17:00 AM
(what the heck's wrong with me)
Lou
:o
CABIN FEVER :o ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)
8).......TIGER....... 8)
That and the shaft/final drive assembly weighs a freaking tonne
Sure,their heavier than a chain and sprockets, but figure the cost of a good o ring chain and sprockets over the years and look how much you have saved ! A shaft is a given on any road bike I buy ,I don't wan't any chains or belts.On a dirt bike you just have to live with it.
Quote from: inanecathode on January 06, 2008, 11:19:12 PM
That and the shaft/final drive assembly weighs a freaking tonne
only half of it weighs a tonne, the other half of the tonne acts as half of the swingarm....
what's up with the weight phobia? since you aren't packin 20 extra pounds like most of us, you should already have a weight advantage :D
;D Yup & while your doin your "chain chores" I'll be on my fourth beer or so...
Cheers!! Ken S. ;D
Quote from: Night Vision on January 07, 2008, 10:37:45 PM
Quote from: inanecathode on January 06, 2008, 11:19:12 PM
That and the shaft/final drive assembly weighs a freaking tonne
only half of it weighs a tonne, the other half of the tonne acts as half of the swingarm....
what's up with the weight phobia? since you aren't packin 20 extra pounds like most of us, you should already have a weight advantage :D
It still weighs a freaking tonne :P
Theres a 15 pound weight flinging around on the end of the swingarm, thats what i dont like about it :P
well most don't drink as fast as you though Kenny