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General Board / Re: Neglecting my Vision
« Last post by fret not on March 21, 2023, 06:39:37 PM »
Some time ago I read 'directions' for using one of those modern batteries in very cold weather:  turn on the headlight for a couple minutes before trying to start the motor, As this causes the battery to generate a bit of internal heat and makes the chemical reaction a bit more vigorous.
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TechTalk / Re: flywheel removal
« Last post by fret not on March 21, 2023, 06:33:18 PM »
When you get to the part where you "give it a whack" use a large hammer and some enthusiasm, as it can require some effort.  When I removed the flywheel on my Vision I was surprised at how much "abuse" it required (a hell of a whack, or several), and how far things flew.  There can be a lot of energy released when it finally releases. 
Look for wear on the rollers as they are the focus of energy when they do their job.  Also on the ramps where the rollers ride.  There should not be any ripples or unevenness of the surfaces.  I had to replace the rollers(ripples) and the body of the starter clutch(cracked). 
Fortunately the starter clutch applies to several other models, so is likely to be available for some years yet.


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TechTalk / Re: flywheel removal
« Last post by JBEVARDOS on March 21, 2023, 12:36:38 PM »
Hi Brian  , what  bike did you get ?
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TechTalk / Re: flywheel removal
« Last post by cvincer on March 20, 2023, 08:41:46 PM »
With the 'puller' in position, ensuring equal tension on the 3 'puller' bolts, tighten up the centre bolt & give it a whack with a hammer...& hopefully the flywheel pops off onto the soft landing you have arranged.  If it does not, tighten the centre bolt a bit more & whack (its very important to have equal tension being applied by the other 3 bolts otherwise the flywheel will not come off because it is on a taper with a woodruff key).

If every thing to do with the starter clutch is ok & its securing bolts have been peened, I'd leave it.  Any problems with the starter clutch, remove, fix problems, re-attach starter clutch to flywheel using 'Loctite' on securing bolts + peen securing bolts.
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TechTalk / flywheel removal
« Last post by briandneville on March 20, 2023, 10:45:13 AM »
I've wanted to check the starter clutch for loose bolts / anything else as there has been some clunking associated with starter use since I bought my Vision in 2023.

Reading old threads and looking at grainy manual photos I have deduced the following:

-starter clutch is behind flywheel
-gear puller of some type needed to remove flywheel
      -must have 3 machine screws to thread into the back of the flywheel
      -must have center pusher rod to apply pressure to the shaft, removing flywheel by pulling on the three machine screws
      -prepare for the release to be somewhat sudden, and starter clutch parts to fall to floor (use something soft to catch them)
-once starter clutch has been inspected and 'fixed', reassemble using bolt to move flywheel back onto the shaft, position of flywheel determined by shape of shaft so it cannot go on at the wrong rotational position

If any of this sounds wrong I'd appreciate corrections / tips.  This is the first time I've removed the left side engine cover.  Gasket came right off and looks good so think I can re-use it.

I do not know exactly what I am looking for on the starter clutch, other than loose bolts, cracks, wear, so I will probably follow up with more questions.

Thanks for any advice!
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General Board / Re: Neglecting my Vision
« Last post by Walt_M. on March 20, 2023, 07:58:31 AM »
I have to agree about the battery but the dash mounted digital voltmeter was less than 10V when it started. Anyway, that was a positive discovery.
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General Board / Re: Neglecting my Vision
« Last post by jefferson on March 18, 2023, 09:55:32 AM »
I would put that down to the Shorai battery. If they have been sitting awhile they will get stronger after cranking on them for a while. I have been there with a couple of my bikes with Shorai's in them. They initially sound like they aren't going to go and then crank faster with time.
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General Board / Re: Neglecting my Vision
« Last post by briandneville on March 17, 2023, 03:10:44 PM »
It's refreshing to hear a story where a Vision starts when you are pretty sure it won't.
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General Board / Neglecting my Vision
« Last post by Walt_M. on March 16, 2023, 07:38:53 AM »
Haven't been doing anything with the Vision the last few months. Had some chores to do where she is stored, mowing, picking up oak leaves etc. Anyway, I decided to give her a try. Turned on the key and the fuel pump diddn't fill the carbs, no gas. Put a gallon in and the carbs filled. Choke on and starting cranking. I am immediately concerned as the battery volts dropped below 10. I was about to get the jump box and it popped! Cranked a little more and it started. That is not supposed to happen. Somehow the Shorai battery had the energy to start it. I let it warm up for 20 minutes, wish I had more time to work on it. Have faith people, these things will run.
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Off Topic / MotoGp 2023
« Last post by Walt_M. on March 10, 2023, 06:00:52 PM »
Well, here we go again, last test before the season start at Portimão tomorrow and Sunday. I'm not sure if Video Pass will cover it but Crashnet will.
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