Riders Of Vision

Quote from: jasonm. on July 04, 2007, 03:23:24 PM
Are you doing smoke shows or just not leaning to only get 3k or so out of yours? I am looking at the getting Pirelli Demon now to match my Pirelli "match" front.  Hope I get more than 4k out of it. :-\

You obviously have not seen Visionmeister ride. Actually, keeping up to see him ride is the trick.  So my guess is that he rides the s##t out of them and that is why they don't last.  I have the Pirelli Sport Demons on mine and like them so much I just ordered a pair for my 750 Katana.
                   Chris

with my fzr or my vision i would rather replace a tire cause of ware rather than rot. you can buy a tire that is hard and will last many many miles but then how do you know when you need a new one? when it blows and your going down the road. not good in my book. i buy a medium tire. id rather wear one out then blow one out.

right now im running pirelli sport demon's on the fzr and kenda challenger's on the vision. both are a medium grade tire, ive had the vision on the track with the challenger's and they handle great. i was able to keep up with the 6oo sport bike's. (most of it was due to the rider)

tires are a personal choice. if you want a tire that will last 10 years then buy a harder tire. if you want a tire that will stick like glue in the corner then buy a soft tire. it all depends on how you ride. if you ride alot of corners and push it hard in them then get a softer tire. if you want to cruise the hi-way get a harder tire.

I PLAN ON RIDDING MAYBE EVERY SUNDAY MAYBE 200 MILES. WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WOULD BE GOOD, A HARD TIRE OR A SOFT ONE?

That still depends on the type of riding you will be doing.  If it's generally lots of straights & fast sweepers, you can get by with a harder tire.  If you plan on hitting some twisty roads, you'll appreciate the softer, stickier ones.  Even if it's an even mix of straight & twisty roads, I'd suggest going for the softer ones.

H₂O

            8).......AVON....... 8).......AVON....... 8).......AVON....... 8)

VisionMeister has a set of the new Avon RoadRiders (Super Venom replacement).  Said they took some time to wear in (may have been the heavy load & high pressures).  Kwells also has one RoadRider in combination with a Super Venom.  On tactile comparison, the compound appears to be the same - or at least very close.  The RoadRiders are quite a bit less $$ than the Super Venoms were.

I really like the Super Venoms on my bike.  Looks like I'll get around 5,000 miles out of them.  Rear is wearing faster than the front - as usual for MC tires.  I have about 3K on them now.  Next set for me are either the RoadRiders or the Pirelli Sport Demons.  Both of those have a more modern "radial type" tread pattern.  If I can figure out the Metzeler distribution and can locate a 110/90-18 Lasertec rear, I may go with those instead.  Can't get straight answers from dealers.  Haven't tried Metzeler directly as yet.

H₂O

IT WILL BE A MIX STRAIGHT AND TWISTIES

Zore: You go guy!  BTW, what kind of cooky is Lucky promoting on the Dark Side?

WHAT?  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

H2O , I was told the RoadRider are replacing the "RoadRunners". Both being a higher mileage tire that the Super Venom. I had the SuperVenoms on my '82. Man they were great, truly stuck like glue. But now the '83 needs just the rear. So I will likely get the Pirelli as Visionless recommends. This should match the Pirelli "Match 09" I have on the front , for similar handling. Then hopefully the front & rear wear out at the same time...it will be Avon again for both ends.  Hey Visionless, Doesn't your Katana wear radials ???

It was one of the reasons I didn't want to get the super venoms.  I'd end up liking them and not be able to get them.  My friend uses bt45's on track days and says they work well enough.  It's a shame that we can't get tires like what is available for 17" wheels.  The tire technoligy these days is amazing.

Quote from: jasonm. on July 07, 2007, 02:38:34 PM
Hey Visionless, Doesn't your Katana wear radials ???

The bias ply Sport Demons are an experiment on the Katana, but yes it came with radials.
     Chris

I THINK I HAVE THE SAME DUNLOP TIRES VISIONMEISTER HAS
I THINK

VisionMeister has Avon RoadRiders.  The RoadRiders took the place of both the Road Runners & the Super Venoms.  Like Metzeler, and their Lasertec,  Avon is trying to keep the inventory & manufacturing costs for older bias tires to a minimum.  With Avons, many of the sizes are used on either front or rear.  There are arrows showing direction of rotation for F or R position on the sidewall.  Kwells seems to like the RoadRider he has on the front of his V.

H₂O

I just checked Avon's web site. The Supervenom is now classified as "cruiser touring" model. Our sizes are still there. Take a look.

http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/?page=tyres&method=listtyres&cat=2

yes, apparently they are (available in the UK) , but they seem to be "discontinued" here in the states....

just like h₂o says about the Metzelers... they are listed on the "home page" in our sizes, but don't seem to be available here...

What really gets me about the Metzelers is they say if it's listed on their US website, it's available here.  The Lasertec rear is listed in a 4.00-18, a 110/90-18 and a 120/90-18 on the US website.  However, nobody carries the 110/90-18 rear tire.  When I ordered the Super Venoms a couple years ago, I asked American Motorcycle Tire, Southwest Motorcycle Tire & Dennis Kirk about the availability of the Lasertec in the 110/90-18 rear size.  They all said it is not available from their distributor (likely Parts Unlimited).

When it comes time to get the new shoes for my V, I'll contact Metzeler directly to see what the problem is.

H₂O

What's wrong Zore, you have a problem with caps? ??? ??? ???

Most people have a harder time reading all caps.  They're a bit more difficult for my (just starting to age) eyes to follow easily.  Also, in normal web talk, all caps is the same as yelling when communicating with your analog voice.

Must bother him more than the rest of us - at least a little bit since he was the most blatant one to point it out.   ;)

H₂O