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Started by The Prophet of Doom, October 15, 2011, 04:39:21 AM

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The Prophet of Doom

The black XZ400 is a gift that keeps giving...
These calipers came off that bike.  The glorious PO had painted the inside of the cylinder - that was never going to work so well - the paint had turned into a gooey mess, taking a full 3-4 hours to extract it a tiny bit at a time.  Whew!

Lots of outgassing on these calipers - they need a really thorough pre-bake before PC or you will end up having to do them again - like I did.

Done now and all ready for reassembly.


dingleberry

Those calipers are begging for some personalization. Maybe some tuning forks or what about the respected visionary's handle "prophet"
You like, oui?

The Prophet of Doom

Quote from: dingleberry on January 04, 2015, 04:39:51 AM
Those calipers are begging for some personalization. Maybe some tuning forks or what about the respected visionary's handle "prophet"
I'll see what I think down track a bit - it's a toss up between being retro-cool and a complete tosser.

Has anyone here tried the Brembo Carbon Ceramic Brake Pads ?  They are available for the XZ and not that much more per pair than regular ones.  (and half the weight)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-XZ550-RJ-RK-82-83-Brembo-Carbon-Ceramic-Front-Brake-Pads-/131186816051?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item1e8b57f433&vxp=mtr

fret not

Well, no matter how the work they say BREMBO on them! 

From the advertisement description they sound safe enough.  In the 70s I had a small race bike fitted with some metallic linings and they were extremely aggressive once they got hot and before that they were rather unpredictable.  These Brembo bits sound more civilized.
Retired, on the downhill slide. . . . . . . . still feels like going uphill!

The Prophet of Doom

They do sound worth the extra $5.  I'm going to risk it - and perhaps get some brembo logo stickers for the calipers just to please Dingleberry - I think it's nearly justified if I have BREMBO pads :-)



motoracer8

 If one remembers back when Roberts rode that TZ at San Jose, that so called 125 HP all went up in wheel spin. Powerful? you bet, but if you can't get it on the ground what good is it.

That's why multi cylinder engines have really never been successful on a dirt track. Look whats getting the job done now, a Kawasaki twin.  Less weight manageable power.

You may remember that when Roberts stepped off that TZ, he said they don't pay me enough to ride that thing.
83 Vision and 11 others, Japanese, German and British

Rikugun

KR at the Indy Mile revisited - 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k8hJWKIVNs

footage from a spectator at one of the turns - KR solo run starts at 1:05

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k8hJWKIVNs
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is then to persist in delusion, however satisfying or reassuring.  Carl Sagan

dingleberry

Has the dirt tracker seed been planted yet POD? ;D
You like, oui?

The Prophet of Doom

Hell no - that looks way too dangerous

dingleberry

Hey here's a link you might like for alloy mudguards and a whole host of other tasty bits. They ship worldwide.

http://www.discovolantemoto.co.uk/

Remember NZPost have an address there as well as USA so may be cheaper postage from our end.



You like, oui?

The Prophet of Doom

#330
So the Brembo pads arrived in just 6 days from the UK.  +1 for ordering from BikeTorqueRacing.co.uk and +1 for Royal mail

I guess most calipers don't show the back of the pad, but ours do and red pads with a big B would have been cool
Disappointingly they look just like any other brake pad.

Rikugun

I'm surprised Brembo didn't include stickers in the packaging.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is then to persist in delusion, however satisfying or reassuring.  Carl Sagan

The Prophet of Doom

I wanted to put the radiator on today, but the cooling fins are pretty manky - even after some fettling with a thin screwdriver.  Decided to hide it behind some alloy grill - and just because I can, cut the louvres off the shroud.
Still needs a sand and some paint.

pinholenz

Ahh! Brembo pads for the original Yammie calipers! I didn't know they made them. Very cool
I found them at http://www.biketorqueracing.co.uk. Is the quoted price on the website for a pair or for each pad?
Only one '82.5  eXtreme Zen 550

The Prophet of Doom

GBP 17.50 Per pair.  Plus postage 
Including exchange fees etc it came to $NZ101 for 2 pairs landed compared to $NZ95 for pyramid, but had to wait an extra week.

Rikugun

I like the clean look of the rad grill. Have a pic of the backside to show attachment method?
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is then to persist in delusion, however satisfying or reassuring.  Carl Sagan

The Prophet of Doom

Mostly I think it will just sandwich in place and be held up by the bottom lip. 
I was just going to use some foam for clearance and a couple of zip ties for safety.  That's what the commercial ones seem to do.

Do you think it needs more? I suppose I could bolt the mesh to the shroud, but I would worry that the backs of the bolts would vibrate against the rad and eventually penetrate

The Prophet of Doom

I thought rather than paint I'd have a go at the old trick of wafting a flame over the surface of black plastic to bring back the black colour and gloss. 

Sanded with 1000 grit, then used my propane burner.  It doesn't take long - about 1-2 seconds so keep that flame moving.  Went over it again when cooled to catch any bits I missed.

I'd never tried it before but it works perfectly.  Here it is on the bike.



Rikugun

It looks really good POD. Do you think a heat gun would be sufficient in lieu of a flame? I think I recall one of my brother's trying that on plastic auto bumper covers and the like. I'll have him update me on how it worked - and long it lasted.

Sorry I missed your last query regarding attachment - did you end up using a bit of foam around the perimeter as a backer? I don't see zip ties so I guess they weren't needed.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is then to persist in delusion, however satisfying or reassuring.  Carl Sagan

The Prophet of Doom

I've seen heat guns used on youtube though not done it myself.  Much the same thing I think.  I'd practice with a spare first.

I put a little foam along the radiator edges - makes it a really tight fit.  I didn't worry about zip ties - it's not going anywhere