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Re: Wire Wheels for a Vision
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2017, 07:12:08 AM »
If you snooze, you lose. Someone just bought the set of wheels I was planning to buy. I saw them last night and when I went to buy them a few minutes ago they're gone. Damn!
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Re: Wire Wheels for a Vision
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2017, 10:55:59 AM »
This may work out better. I just bought a rear wheel from an xv535. From the pictures it has the 5 bolt spline. At least is was cheaper than the xv700 I was looking at. They were $400 for the pair and this is only $99. I think I can probably find something in Mexico for the front. That looks like it should be fairly easy. Maybe an XS650?
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Re: Wire Wheels for a Vision
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2017, 11:19:06 AM »
Just pulled the trigger on an XS650 wheel with provisions for dual disks for $80 plus shipping on ebay. I'm hoping the axle size is the same. If so, it should be an easy transplant. It doesn't have disks so I'll start looking for something from EBC or one of those companies that make custom disks.
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Re: Wire Wheels for a Vision
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2017, 02:54:39 PM »

XV535 if I recall has a smaller 15mm axle so you'll have to plan for a bearing swap, and using the XZ spacer. 


EBC disks are expensive - $US100+ each - plus postage.
Unless you particularly want new ones why don't you just unbolt the disks from the XZ and use them? The XZ looks like the same 6 bolt pattern. 


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Re: Wire Wheels for a Vision
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2017, 05:49:21 AM »
The front wheel I've ordered is from an XS650, not an XV. And, or course I'll check to see if I have anything that's useable before I go ordering new disks but I'm afraid, given the mish-mash of parts I have, I'll probably have to have custom disks. I think it would be hard to find exactly what I wanted when you consider bolt pattern, disk diameter, and offset. Oh well, if it was easy and cheap everyone would be doing it.
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Re: Wire Wheels for a Vision
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2017, 12:26:01 PM »
I got the XV535 rear wheel yesterday and got a chance to look at it today. I pulled the spline off the XV and the spline off the XZ and they are the same bolt pattern, however there is a little shoulder on the XV wheel that keeps the spline standing proud about 1/4 inch so I got out the bolt cutters and cut the spokes, put the hub in the lathe and turned it down. Took about five minutes to do after I spend 30 minutes setting it up, grinding a tool, etc.

After removing the little sheet metal dust cover, which isn't needed because the XV wheel has a deeper flange that covers the opening like it was made for it, the whole thing looks very doable. I punched the bearings out and I'll order then today, along with a brake backing plate, then see how it all fits in the swing arm, when I get my parts back from the painter.

The first picture shows the XV wheel with it's internal spline and the XZ spline. The second shows the shoulder that has to be machined off and the third shows the spline installed.
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Re: Wire Wheels for a Vision
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2017, 07:18:58 AM »
I'm going to order my spokes and rim from Buchanan's today. I decided to go with the an 18 inch and stock width on the rear. That way, I can adjust the rim a little if it needs it to line up with the front. I'm thinking polished SS spokes and nipples and anodized gold rim.
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Re: Wire Wheels for a Vision
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2017, 09:22:04 AM »
Are you going to put the wire wheels on the '83 restoration?

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Re: Wire Wheels for a Vision
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2017, 11:52:59 AM »
Wire wheels imply tubes which imply blowouts if you get a puncture.

I've had tube type tires on the majority of motorcycle I've owned in my life and my '17 Africa Twin and my '15 Triumph Scrambler both have tube type tires. I've had many flat tires but never a blowout on a motorcycle in 60 years of riding.
Alrighty, a reference
http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/seal-motorcycle-wire-wheels-to-use-tubeless-tires

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Re: Wire Wheels for a Vision
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2017, 06:22:00 AM »
The wire wheels are going on my second Vision when it get here. I will put them on the 83 just to make sure everything fits and I'll be sure to post a picture. I think I just got lucky with my wheels. My friend Charlie is visiting from SF CA and when I mentioned I was going to lace up gold rims he said, "I think I've got 2 gold rims you gave me when you moved to Mexico." I knew I had some but I didn't remember who got them in the move. He's taking the hub home with him and he's got a wheel smith who will make the spokes and lace it up for me for a lot less than Buchanan. When I get the front I'll figure out the disks etc and let him take the hub back and get it spoked up. One less job for me.

Oh, and the wheel smith will leave the spokes a little long so I can adjust the wheel to the exact centerline of the bike, then cut them off. That's got to be better than 10 CM off line.

I don't know where the writer gets his info but I've had as many slow leaks on tube type tires as tubeless and, as I said, I've never had a total blowout. I like tubeless because they're easier to repair on the roadside but I don't see any difference safety wise. I don't think I want to try sealing up the nipples myself until a lot more people have tried it. I've read several accounts of people with good results but it looks risky to me.
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