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1983 Vision - In Negotiation

Started by WGuaire, September 01, 2019, 08:15:33 PM

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WGuaire

I just started contact with a seller of a 1983 Vision. It's very clean and has the stock fairing. I love the little air vent louvers on the upside of the fairing! I'm looking forward to change from an interested person, to a rider of vision. We'll see how it goes. Should take about a week.
  I'm in northern VA area.
Cheers,
Bill G.

jefferson

Good luck. Do make sure it is charging and be very careful with the knobs that release and move the flaps in the vents. They can be fragile.

WGuaire

What a catch! Showroom condition.
  Looks like I need to get the YAMAHA for the side of the fairing.

Walt_M.

You are also missing the small Yamaha above the headlight and the gold trim on the tank. And you should be careful of the stock black chrome exhaust. They rust from the inside out and if you don't get it too hot to touch every time you run it, it will be gone before you know it. Mine was rotted in 3 years. 
Whale oil beef hooked!

WGuaire

I'll look around at those spots, make a list.
  I'll keep that in mind about the mufflers. I like to burn them out to keep them healthy. In northern VA we get some pretty swampy humidity and rain.
Regards,
Bill

jefferson

Nice find! They don't come much nicer than that. How many miles are on it? Can't be many.

WGuaire

10,951.
  I saw the silver one, near Philadelphia. That one has 42k. Plus, I have always wanted one with the factory fairing. They're really great.
  One thing - there are no pockets, boxes, nothing for storage in the big fairing. I may have to figure something out.

  The front brakes have plenty of material, but they don't grab very well. I'm going to wipe the rotors with some brake cleaner and buff them with the green kitchen pads. Then, I'll see if they improve. Maybe they aren't bedded into the discs?

Bill

jefferson

Wouldn't hurt to take some sandpaper to the pads also to clean any burnishing off of them. Completely flush the fluid. It can be surprising how much just putting fresh fluid in can improve the brakes.  If you don't like the brakes after that then put some more aggressive pads on and do braided stainless lines.

WGuaire

Jefferson - The previous owner is a great mechanic, maybe a magician. The brake fluid is brand new. I cleaned the rotors. Did a test ride. I'll follow your idea, sandpaper on the pads. Can't hurt.
  EBC does not make HH sintered pads for the Vision. They do offer FA81 organics. Anything that bites will be fine. Before new I will sandpaper to 'burnish' what I have. They are like new.
  Mine has the 1 to 2 through a union. Derek Capito of motolab said that's 'where air bubbles go to hide.'  I think this is a lack of bite between the rotor and pad.
  I'll see if there's a kit, 2 down to a double banjo for the lines. We used to do that on the YX600, Yamaha Radian bikes.
  The fuse box is like the Radian. A weak mess.
  The headlight is totally inadequate.
I'll look into roadstercycle.com for a better R/R. Maybe Eastern Beaver for a fuse box.
Other issues: very hot on the right side. Maybe special coolant?!
Room for improvement, but I have dealt with these Yamaha issues before.
Bill

jefferson

#9
I've never had any problem with getting the air out of the system. Tapping on the lines helps vibrate the bubbles loose so they go to the top and burp them out the master cyl. The fuse box is a known weak point and needs replaced with blade type fuses. The headlight is an easy fix. Just grab one with a replaceable h4 bulb and you will be golden. Much better light output.
The way to fix the r/r is to go with one of the new style r/r off an r1 or polaris used them too. The name escapes me right now. Someone with a better memory will pipe up I'm sure.
Are you talking about the rt side of the cylinders being hotter or the clutch cover which is where the water pump is which would explain the heat thing.

I remembered the type of r/r. It's a mosfet. There are threads on here about it.

pullshocks

That's great.  Congratulations.  A good running "83 is a bike worth having.

If an '83 that nice showed up for sale in my area, I would be heading down the rabbit hole

Walt_M.

Do replace the brake lines if they are original. Grab a line and squeeze the brake lever and you will see why. You don't really need steel braided lines and can keep the union but new lines are a must.
Whale oil beef hooked!

kevin g

That is a nice '83.  Mine is going to take a bit of work to make that nice.  I just realized that my rotors are not slotted like I see on many others.  Is that odd?

WGuaire

I guess if you stop, it's not a problem.
Bill

The Prophet of Doom

Quote from: kevin g on September 10, 2019, 11:07:18 PM
I just realized that my rotors are not slotted like I see on many others.  Is that odd?
Not so odd.  I've been told that none of the Euro bikes 82 or 83 came with slotty brake rotors. 

fret not

I like the appearance of the bike without the tank 'decals'.  Seeing the bike without the tank graphics (to me) is a cleaner over all design.  But then, my approach to design is "less is more" providing you can make the design 'work'.  One of my friends spent his career in graphics and design, worked for several years at the Harra's Auto Collection in Reno, Nevada, designing brochures, menus for the casino restaurants, brochures and books for the auto collection.  He taught me about the 'less is more' concept and warned that sometimes less is boring.  To keep in mind that "if it LOOKS good then it IS good".  After all, it IS design, and the purpose is to look good.
Retired, on the downhill slide. . . . . . . . still feels like going uphill!

WGuaire

Quote from: fret not on September 12, 2019, 02:09:13 PM
I like the appearance of the bike without the tank 'decals'.  Seeing the bike without the tank graphics (to me) is a cleaner over all design.  But then, my approach to design is "less is more" providing you can make the design 'work'.  One of my friends spent his career in graphics and design, worked for several years at the Harra's Auto Collection in Reno, Nevada, designing brochures, menus for the casino restaurants, brochures and books for the auto collection.  He taught me about the 'less is more' concept and warned that sometimes less is boring.  To keep in mind that "if it LOOKS good then it IS good".  After all, it IS design, and the purpose is to look good.

Hi fret not -  The clean and uncluttered look on this Vision looks good as is. I have ordered a 1/2" tuning fork roundel to put over the headlight. It will go there instead instead the YAMAHA decal.  Similar roundels will fit on the exposed area of the fuel tank.  Also, Yamaha gold raised letters will be added to the edge of the upper fairing. If those don't look like they work well, I won't add them on. I'm hoping they won't interfere with the clean lines the bike has.
   I have a 1994 BMW K75. It's a good looking bike. There are no big BMW letters. It does have the classic roundel on the fuel tank. For the Vision, I'll be going for a similar look.
  My uncle lived in Reno. I always enjoyed those visits.
Cheers,
Bill