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Kevin L Clinton

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vALVE TOOL
« on: May 07, 2005, 10:05:25 AM »
Lucky would you post the valve tool adjustment deminsions again? thanks Kevin

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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2005, 10:10:24 AM »
Kevin -

I may not be Lucky, but try this:

http://www.xz550.com/art_files/ValveShimTool.jpeg

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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2005, 10:47:41 AM »
Wouldn't it be cool to have shim under bucket?? ;) ;)
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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2005, 12:28:50 PM »
COOL What? spend half the day and pull the cams, change shims and re-time the cams...NO THANK YOU. Any bike with less than a 10k redline does not need shim under. VMAX turns 9.5k...shim over. Honda to make money for the Dealers and keep parts common in their manufacturing, went to shim under for most over their bikes...even the GoldWing with its 6000 redline. ?I guess most out there have not done shim under bucket valve adjust...it sucks.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2005, 12:30:11 PM by jasonm. »
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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2005, 12:35:16 PM »
Yeh, but when your turning 13,000rpm it sucks even more having a shim spit out.
I doubt Honda went from shim over to under just so the dealers could make more money. JMO Tdub
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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2005, 01:11:25 PM »
Thanks for the info. shim under bucket not needed for street and a pain in the butt to adjust.Kevin :)

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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2005, 10:30:14 AM »
If you are looking for the valve tool it is available from Yamaha and not terribly expensive, unless you enjoy building things of course.

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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2005, 12:39:24 PM »
It's not that tough to unbolt the cams on the Vision and lift them up a bit to change the shims. I did that after fussing with a tool from Yamaha that gave me all kinds of problems.

I had to do this once and clearance held from then (35,000 km or so) until the engine was done (85,000 km).

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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2005, 09:34:33 PM »
Honda has been over engineering it stuff , right from the begining!
You should hear the screams from people who who have to pay 700. for a valve adjustment on the one with the "trick "  stuff that unloads half the valves at lower RPM.  As for me if the cams have to come out  to adjust the valves , I don't want the thing!
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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2005, 08:26:32 AM »
That's unbelievable Rick.  I wouldn't touch a piece of engineering that had such high maintenance cost. Cost is becoming the big issue with performance enhancements today.  Real motorcycling is being able to do most of your own maintenance and within a poor man's budget.  Eventually the retro concept with "back to basics" may start to grab a hold in the market.  It's groups like ROV that keep the concept of a real motorcycle experience alive.

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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2005, 08:56:09 AM »
I just ordered one from the Dealer... $34.99, sometimes I will gladly pay for something just so I do not have to make it!! ;D
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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2005, 10:28:51 AM »
That seems expensive but they do work, at least mine does. Just don't misplace it, they are not very big and can 'hide' under stuff in the tool box.
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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2005, 07:02:34 AM »
Apparently, the "wink" after my shim under bucket didn't convey the message I intended. In our application with the race bike and the RPMs we are turning, the shim under arrangement was a must have. Our stable includes 3 XR750s, 2 Visions hybrids, and 6 YZF450/505s, all requiring almost weekly maintenance.
Anyway, time to go tear the Vision down as we put on almost 100 laps testing yesterday. Later, Tdub
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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2005, 08:14:45 AM »
Hey, Tdub.
Are you running shim under?
What kind of revs does the Race V turn?
Are you running with the Counterbalancer?
It seems if a 750 Harley can stay together with its vibes that a V could run without a counterbalancer.

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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2005, 09:07:08 AM »
Yes
12,500 so far
No C/B
Testing went well this week, but still have some work to do before Joliet. It is looking very promising. Tdub
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vALVE TOOL
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2005, 02:53:13 AM »
by the way, I still have a valve tool for sale and 33 shims

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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2005, 10:34:48 AM »
  ha Tdub, did ya run it a twingle yet?   Dave
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Re: vALVE TOOL
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2005, 02:49:47 PM »
Not yet! Soon
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