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Started by MrMe, April 13, 2005, 02:51:00 PM

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MrMe

Got a r/r from a cx 500.

I ran the ground wire directly to the bat -
and this wire is still getting smoking hot ?
Why ?
Is this a ground short ?
bout to give up.
Brian

Superfly

Did you run the ground straight from the RR to the Battery negative, or did you run a extra wire from the harness (with the RR hard-wired into the harness) to the battery negative?
A bad marrage is like dirty carbs... It just makes everything else suck.

MrMe

r/r - directly to bat -

as far as i know the ground aint sposed to cary any current.

im lost...

ofstone

#3
If you are sure the wire you are talking about is the minus, and there is no other wire coming from the R/R also beeing very hot, then you probably have a shorted stator or broken R/R rectifier.
Check all 3 white wires coming from the stator with a DVM set to resistor measurement, with R/R not connected. None of them should be connected to ground/chassis.

If one or more of the 3 wires is connected to ground, it wil short the current from the stator to the chassis and only trough the black wire back to the R/R and stator. The current can be very high so it will heat up your wire (and possibly more).

There is a very good charging system test (PDF file) at the electrex site: www.electrexusa.com.

This will help you to check out a charging problem and to see what part/component is faulty.

Normally the ground wire carries the same current as the Red wire (positive). The current flow is a closed loop, what goes in, must come out.

MrMe

yea i know
im gonna go test the stator. I thought it tested fine but thats the only reason i can think of for it heating up that wire.
Oh well at least the charging system will be new....

MrMe

stator passed every test except ac voltage
all 3 were over 50 but not the same.
So i assume the stator is pooched causing the short ?

MrMe

hmmm me thinks i found the prob.
is black crumbeling epoxy on a stator a bad thing ?
oh well.
Brian

Rick G

Rick G
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'82.5 Yamaha XZ550 RJ  Vision,
'90 Suzuki VX800, 1990 Suzuki DR350.
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Superfly

#8
Welcome to the Flaming Stator Club....
A bad marrage is like dirty carbs... It just makes everything else suck.

louthepou

Super, you could ask MrMe to send you his fried stator for your collection!  ;D

Louis
Hi, my name is Louis, and I'm a Vision-o-holic

Superfly

Yeah, I am still working on that neclace for you-know-who!!! LOL!!
A bad marrage is like dirty carbs... It just makes everything else suck.

MrMe

Now the question is are the stators from eletrex better than the oem ones. I have no issues dropping that amount of coin
other than 3 weeks without riding. But i have issues with putting an oem one back in there. I dont want to do this every season.
Brian

Superfly

I bought one from Ricks Electrics, and it works great.  Very happy with it.
A bad marrage is like dirty carbs... It just makes everything else suck.

h2olawyer

Hmmm - black, crumbly epoxy - I had one just like that.  Welcome to the fried stator wing of ROV!   ::)

Mine's also a Rick's.  Only been in about a year so I can't speak to durability.  Maybe not as pretty an Electrex but so far, it works great.

H2O
If you have an accident on a motorcycle, it's always your fault. Tough call, but it has to be that way. You're in the right, and dead -on a bike. The principle is not to have any accident. If you're involved in an an accident, it's because you did not anticipate. Then, by default, you failed.