Riders Of Vision

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Title: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: couchflyer on May 11, 2009, 09:29:31 PM
This one has a starter issue, the starter quit working last fall.  Well that is what I have been told, if it is the starter I may be able to fix it.  But man it looks cleaner than my black 82.  What do you guys think, should I get her?  She is really clean.




(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii165/couch-flyer/100_1602.jpg)
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Tiger on May 11, 2009, 09:35:04 PM
 8) Nice one...but how many $$$$'s does he want  :-\

                       
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: couchflyer on May 11, 2009, 10:13:55 PM
Well he said he'd "be happy to make a sweet deal".  Is that a 83 tank?  My black 82 has a Yamaha badge on the tank, this one doesn't.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: akvision on May 11, 2009, 10:41:25 PM
looks good to me, (at the right price, and miles) maybe your black one will become a parts bike.
Remember, we are in a recession..cash talks.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Brian Moffet on May 12, 2009, 12:06:24 AM
Quote from: couchflyer on May 11, 2009, 10:13:55 PM
Is that a 83 tank? 

83's in the US didn't come in that color.  I suspect it's been repainted.

Brian
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Rick G on May 12, 2009, 02:33:34 AM
Brian is right, the tank has been repainted. The bike shows several signs of being an '82. Single disc brake, tall bar risers, chrome exhaust, silver swing arm. All the same I'd give my left nut for that thing , its super nice.Go for it! :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Tiger on May 12, 2009, 05:11:58 AM
Quote from: akvision on May 11, 2009, 10:41:25 PM
... maybe your black one will become a parts bike.

:o I would hope not!!!

Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Rick G on May 12, 2009, 03:51:16 PM
Tiger is a trifle sensitive about relegating a Vision to parts bike status.  He tries to avoid it at all costs! ;) :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: couchflyer on May 12, 2009, 11:03:24 PM
I am looking at it tomorrow.  I'll let you know how it is.

BTW - My black Vision kicks arse, I'd never use it as a parts bike.  Take a look at her.




(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii165/couch-flyer/Vision2008g.jpg)
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: inanecathode on May 12, 2009, 11:51:30 PM
I wonder what that red bike looks like dry. If i hose down my bike then take a picture of it immediately it looks stellar.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: don_vanecek on May 13, 2009, 09:43:13 AM
Very nice!  I haven't decided yet if I'm going to make my yearly summer ride up to Minneapolis. My son's current job has him working every weekend, so I guess I have to think further about it as I would need to take more time off work to catch him on his days off, and he definitely cannot afford to take time off!   
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: funkamongus on May 13, 2009, 10:37:32 AM
Very clean. WOW. Money talks!! (Mine says "goodbye sucker!!")
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Rick G on May 14, 2009, 12:48:57 AM
Wow what a set of book ends you have!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: couchflyer on May 14, 2009, 09:56:35 PM
Okay, here is the skinny:  It needs at least a starter maybe a solenoid too, speedo cable, gas tank reserve doesn't work, and needs a stainless steel brake line.  It has 10,500 miles, it does have the vacuum flap, it is very clean and he wanted $100.00.  I said I couldn't pay that amount and I gave him $200.00 for it.  It is really clean.  Now I need to get the time and get her on the lift to work on her to get her going again.

Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Night Vision on May 14, 2009, 10:11:42 PM
$100? that's a deal at twice the price!

I would have done the same.... darn my honesty and good looks  ::)
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: h2olawyer on May 14, 2009, 10:23:36 PM
Nothing like starting ownership of a 'new' bike with great karma.  Good job!

H2O
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: funkamongus on May 14, 2009, 11:24:53 PM
magically delicious! Damn fine purchase, and well done.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: QBS on May 14, 2009, 11:39:17 PM
Integrity of the first order.  That V is going to an excellent home.  Well Done, Couch!
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: akvision on May 15, 2009, 01:47:40 AM
some are just naturally charmed.  how sweeeeet.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Tiger on May 15, 2009, 07:43:56 AM
Quote from: couchflyer on May 14, 2009, 09:56:35 PM
Okay, here is the skinny:  It needs at least a starter maybe a solenoid too, speedo cable, gas tank reserve doesn't work, and needs a stainless steel brake line.  It has 10,500 miles, it does have the vacuum flap, it is very clean and he wanted $100.00.  I said I couldn't pay that amount and I gave him $200.00 for it.  It is really clean.  Now I need to get the time and get her on the lift to work on her to get her going again.

8) That is a really sweet deal for a nice looking Vision... Absolutely superb...Congratulation 8)

Before you change out the starter, pull it apart...it could be full of oil/in need of new brushes, which is not a big deal, as your prob' aware. An overhaul of the petcock will sort out the reserve situation and the rest is all easy street ;)

             
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: jasonm. on May 16, 2009, 07:59:52 PM
That is surely a clean '82. "82 came in red, silver and black.  I suspect it may need a stator. Many guys just give up when either the stator or carbs need work. As long as the mechanicals(con-rods, etc.) in the engine are good...it's a good bike.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: couchflyer on May 17, 2009, 11:32:49 PM
Updates today:
Stator has been replaced by previous owner.
Clean gas tank - look
starter has a lot of wear and not much grease.  It didn't leak but after I cleaned it out and added grease to the gears, I tried the starter.  It sounds like a bunch of rocks when I turn it over and it doesn't always turn the motor over.  So I'm going to pull the left engine cover to see if I have a clutch issue.  Also looks like I need a front caliper rebuild kit.  Is there such a kit? 

Here are some more photos.

Left side

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii165/couch-flyer/100_1604.jpg)

Front

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii165/couch-flyer/100_1603.jpg)

Gas tank

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii165/couch-flyer/IMAG0028.jpg)
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Kid Jedi on May 17, 2009, 11:34:19 PM
don't do it, its a piece of crap... give it to me?  ;D
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: akvision on May 17, 2009, 11:38:07 PM
the gas tank is new.
On the inside, most likely it looks like the outside.. just lift the seat and peek.  You will know.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: QBS on May 18, 2009, 12:05:05 AM
Don't assume that the starter was assembled properly before you got into it.  Possibly someone has been there before and didn't align the planetary gears just right.  They are VERY easy for the uninformed and hamfisted to put together with one or two teeth in the wrong place.  Visualy easy to mess up.  Properly assembed, they turn easily, smoothly and quitely.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Tiger on May 18, 2009, 11:10:57 AM
Quote from: couchflyer on May 17, 2009, 11:32:49 PM
Updates today:
...Also looks like I need a front caliper rebuild kit.  Is there such a kit? 

:) Yep, they are available from your local friendly Yamaha stealer dealer...Comes with two seals and a piston 8)...bend over, grab ankles and assume the position buddy :o ::) ;D :D :D :D :D

                 
8).......TIGER....... 8)

PS That really is a great buy you have their... 8)
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Night Vision on May 18, 2009, 07:42:09 PM
you should be able to get away with just new seals for the caliper... unless piston is pitted

$10 instead of $60
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Kid Jedi on May 18, 2009, 09:14:22 PM
where do you get seals alone? Yamaha does not sell seals w/o pistons and k&L does not support the bike.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: h2olawyer on May 18, 2009, 10:07:31 PM
I may be wrong, but I think Old Bike Barn sells the seals.

H2O
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: inanecathode on May 18, 2009, 10:11:41 PM
Unless the seals are leaking, i'd just pop the pistons out and make sure they're not just loaded up with crap around the diameter.
Mine were *siezed* at h2o's place, and it turned out to be that it sat so long in one position the piston loaded up around the circumference with road grime and grease. After popping them out, scooping out the mung inside the caliper, and buffing the piston with 600g paper, it works fine :)
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Kid Jedi on May 18, 2009, 10:34:48 PM
Old bike barn does not have them.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: couchflyer on May 18, 2009, 11:14:48 PM
Well the starter is missing the locking pin that keeps the ring gear for the planetary gears in one place.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Night Vision on May 19, 2009, 08:05:49 PM
Quote from: couchflyer on May 18, 2009, 11:14:48 PM
Well the starter is missing the locking pin that keeps the ring gear for the planetary gears in one place.


not a problem..... find a finishing nail about the same diameter, cut to length.... IIRC it needs to stick up slightly to engage into the nose.  it's been awhile since I rebuilt my starter and lost my pin.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Night Vision on May 19, 2009, 08:11:52 PM
Quote from: Kid Jedi on May 18, 2009, 09:14:22 PM
where do you get seals alone? Yamaha does not sell seals w/o pistons and k&L does not support the bike.

here: http://www.hvccycle.com/hvcpartscatalog_files/yamahabrakes.htm

RZ350 Front or Rear seal kit
$8.99ea (4XV-W0047-50-00)

enough seals for one front caliper or one rear

that's a Yamaha part number... dealers should be able to order it also.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Kid Jedi on May 19, 2009, 08:41:25 PM
you deserve a cookie Night Vision
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: haunter on May 19, 2009, 11:12:06 PM
very nice snag
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: couchflyer on May 21, 2009, 11:15:06 PM
Night Vision, good idea I'll try the nail.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: couchflyer on May 30, 2009, 03:53:16 PM
The nail piece helped but I need a starter, it too worn.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Cdnlouie on May 05, 2010, 09:57:26 PM
Since I have been doing some research on these brake caliper seals (now that I need some) I will add another Yamaha part number to the one NV gave us.

It seems the XJ550 lists the two seals separately as 4L0-W0047-01-00 and they seem to be the same piston assembly but can't confirm this info as I did not check it further than looking at the parts fiche online.  However, the hvcycle.com site does put the XJ550 in the list of the seals and piston assembly that should fit our Visions.  I ordered the ones they have available for the RD250/350LC.  $8.99 for a caliper set of seals and free shipping is a pretty good deal.

Good find NV!
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: Night Vision on May 05, 2010, 10:11:47 PM
here's another good tip...

soak yer calipers in one of those one gallon Gunk carb cleaner cans.... and those old seals swell right up and pop out themselves!!

course you'll end up painting the calipers... which was my plan to begin with before I stumbled upon the seal remover

anyone know where I can get that pale gold brembo paint color? I want to paint some dual brembos onto RedSkunk
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: RedRocket on May 06, 2010, 12:11:32 AM
Quote from: Kid Jedi on May 18, 2009, 10:34:48 PM
Old bike barn does not have them.



NEVER BUY FROM OLD BIKE BARN !!!!!!


Unless of course you want to get ripped off.  Just google them.
Title: Re: Look at what I am going to see this week
Post by: VFan on May 07, 2010, 08:37:16 PM
$200?!! Wow, what a deal. I paid $150 for mine but was totally abused and hammered. Whenever I take anything apart I discover more bailing wire and bubble gum.

I can't help but notice how shiny the plastics look (rail and cover). The Vision emblem even still has it's plating. I don't get why the owner just didn't get the starter fixed then hop-on and ride.