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Title: and another one!!! with pictures...SOLD
Post by: Tiger on June 28, 2009, 07:50:28 AM
Kev10104 & I picked up #12, a sad looking "rolling chassis" '82...Engine/frame/wheels/wire loom/front & back lights but not much else on her!!! All the rest of the parts were in two totes!!! Several parts are missing...Gas tank, master cylinder, clutch perch, left side diamond shaped plastic... but I should have them "in stock"

I gave her an all over soaking in degreaser, scrubbed her from top to bottom, front to back...and then power washed her completely down. Then I washed her over again with a wax wash, rinsed and dried her off...She doesn't look half as bad now!!!

Hauled off the oem exhaust system...it was completly shot!!!...and now for a set of MAC's to make her roar!!!

I've installed new plugs/wires/caps, Pos/neg power leads, replaced the fusebox/fuses with modern blade type including the one in the headlight.

When I removed the coil, on the left side, the ground wire was snapped off!!! I picked it up in the loom and grafted a new wire with a ring terminal and added it back in at the coil, once I had cleaned that part of the frame back to bare metal.

The carbs are out for cleaning and the gas tank/plastics are away for painting. She will be sporting a new bright Red look very soon...

...and I have a new owner lined up, ready and waiting with $$$ in hand

TIGER

ps #11, a one owner, Star Silver '82 in beautifull condition with only 28,000Kms (17,500 miles!!) on her and #13, Wolf's one owner, Star Silver '82, both sold this past week...Given the response from kijiji and Craigs List, I could have sold two or three more!!!
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: kev10104 on June 28, 2009, 09:30:32 AM
Number 11 was absolutely beautiful.It is hard to believe somebody kept that bike in such great condition and wanted to get rid of it.What a great find.
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: Tiger on June 28, 2009, 09:03:42 PM
Went into the garage to work on #12 at 8 a.m. and came out at.......8 p.m!!!

Achieved...Between a couple of hours yesterday and today...

Drained the engine oil/oil filter...scanky!!!

Drained the rear drive oil...double scanky!!! and refilled with fresh oil (Castrol).

Removed the left side engine cover to find...A real crispy stator!!! Replaced it with a gently used unit...

Pulled the flywheel and as it flew off and onto the old bath towel I use, there lay one of the starter clutch bolt heads!!! The other two bolts were all but out!!! However, the starter clutch was O.K. and was rebuilt using new soc' head cap screws and RED loctite!!!
The balancer nut also needed torquing up and the locking tabs bent over!!
Put her all back together, made a new cover gasket and bolted her all back together again using new S.S. hardware.
Refilled with fresh oil and added a new OEM oil filter.

I put the R/R on a bracket beside the rear wheel and hard wired in the stator-R/R connections...

The rear wheel was removed and the rear brake striped down and cleaned/serviced...actually there were NO brake shoes in there !!! There are now...!!!
The brake bar was removed/striped and painted, (Satin Black)...and reinstalled with new hardware. The rear brake pedal/shaft/rod were removed, cleaned up and lubricated. The brake rod had a coat of Satin Black paint applied...(to match the brake bar).
The two aluminum plates, (left/right side), were replace with two that I had on the shelf that had been bead blasted and sprayed with clear coat. The rear wheel/brake bar/rod, etc were all reinstalled...

When I removed the oem exhaust system the other day, the top right side stud snapped leaving a decent nub...however it took me a few hours today of heat and penetrating fluid to get the bugger out!!! but out it eventually came...She now sports a nice set of MAC's...growl baby!!!

Replaced all the foot pegs and the side stand with a cleaned/painted set that I had ready and waiting on the shelf...

She was missing a seat lock but I picked one up from the wreckers yesterday (with two keys) and fitted that on...
and after giving the seat a good scrub to get all the grime off, that was then fitted.

The rad' and hoses still need to go on. Front brake now has a master cylinder fitted but the system has to be bled off...However, the bulk of the work is done.

Once I get the carbs back from cleaning and the gas tank/plastics from their repaint, I'll get her fired up and a safety certificate done...

Time for a beer and a scotch, me thinks...

TIGER



Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: Rick G on June 28, 2009, 09:16:33 PM
Tiger, you've been a busy boy! :) :)
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: h2olawyer on June 28, 2009, 10:25:35 PM
Glad you had a fun day, Tiger.  Mine sucked.   ;)  I went on a ride of around 300 miles.  Large group for the first 80 - 85 miles, then three of us for the next 100 and two for the final leg.  IT DIDN'T RAIN ON US!!  First pair of clear days in over a month.  I had a breakthrough in the twisties today & made it home down aa long, twisty canyon in about 30 fewer minutes than normal.  Guess my day wasn't so bad after all.   8)

H2O
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: Tiger on July 02, 2009, 09:40:17 PM
 :) Rad' and hoses are all cleaned up, fitted and the system refilled with fresh, long life coolant. The front brake now has a master cylinder fitted and has been bled off... 8)
Now all she needs are the carbs back from cleaning and the gas tank/plastics from painting and she will be all ready for her new lady owner...who lives a couple of streets away.
Her husband, who rides a Harley Sportster, came over Tuesday night to check on progress, stayed and had a beer or three, asked a few questions and went home a happy guy...that is looking forward to taking this Vision for a spin 8)

                 
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: Tiger on July 04, 2009, 09:06:05 PM
 :) SHE'S ALIVE, ALIVE I SAY 8) 8) 8) I pottered around, finishing off bits and piece's, (new hand grips, etc), checking this and that and thought to my self..."Self, I wish I could hear her roar"  8)

However, the carbs wont be back until next week...likewise the gas tank/plastics :(

Hmmmmm  :-\, so I removed the gas tank, air box and carbs from #14 and put them on to #12  ;) and with a wee bit of coaxing...and a boost from my Chev!!...she fired up 8) 8) 8) Runs really nice, real smooth 8) but will run alot better with clean carbs ::) ;D :D :D :D The starter motor was making some alarming noises, so I switched it out with #14 and all is fine... 8)

Man its been another good day... 8)

               
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: Tiger on July 06, 2009, 04:13:26 PM
 :) Superb...just took a call to let me know that the gas tank/plastics are painted 8) 8) I'll pop in and pick them up tomorrow...thanks Robert 8) Once I get the carbs back, she will look and sound superb 8)

                     
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: kev10104 on July 06, 2009, 05:10:42 PM
You have to love when they wake up and roar again.
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: QBS on July 06, 2009, 06:10:21 PM
Tiger, when you get a low milage V with an unknown history regarding starter clutch and starter motor oil seal upgrades, do you do those upgrades as part of your preparation for sale?
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: Tiger on July 06, 2009, 09:54:25 PM
Quote from: kev10104 on July 06, 2009, 05:10:42 PM
You have to love when they wake up and roar again.

8) Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrowl baby growl ;D :D :D :D :D :D... 8)

Quote from: QBS on July 06, 2009, 06:10:21 PM
Tiger, when you get a low milage V with an unknown history regarding starter clutch and starter motor oil seal upgrades, do you do those upgrades as part of your preparation for sale?

:) I always remove the left side engine cover and flywheel...Starter clutch bolts removed and new ones installed with RED loctite, 46mm shaft nut torqued up and locking tabs (both) peened over, visual check (as well as electronic) to the stator...always!!! The starter motor, unless it has any issues, I leave alone...

                         
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: vadasz1 on July 06, 2009, 11:00:51 PM
Quote from: Tiger on July 06, 2009, 04:13:26 PM
:) Superb...just took a call to let me know that the gas tank/plastics are painted 8) 8) I'll pop in and pick them up tomorrow...thanks Robert 8) Once I get the carbs back, she will look and sound superb 8) 

The red is really popping. Maybe as this Vis going to a lady this one should be named FERRARI.  See ya in the morning buddy.
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: QBS on July 06, 2009, 11:36:10 PM
Tiger, since you have probably done more starter clutch repairs than anyone else on the board, please give us a report of what you have found over the last 14 or so Vs'.  Generally speaking, the condition of the clutches' various componets, common characteristics and the milages that apply to them, that sort of forensic thing.
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: kev10104 on July 07, 2009, 12:11:54 AM
He is going to tell you that thry all need to be done sooner rathger then later.,
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: vadasz1 on July 07, 2009, 03:24:45 PM
Wait till you see the pics of this one.  Man it will look G R E A T ! ! !

Get your hankies ready boys!  8)
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: Tiger on July 07, 2009, 06:37:32 PM
 :) Q, I'll be glad to, however, I'll start a separate thread... ;)

  8) Picked up the gas tank/plastics from vadasz1 today...WOW!!!...that Red is really RED 8) 8) Good job Robert... 8)

Pic's coming soon folks...

                     
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: Night Vision on July 07, 2009, 09:50:09 PM
oh, there they are  :D
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: Night Vision on July 07, 2009, 09:51:48 PM
do I get to name it? I missed the last couple because they went so fast.... but I know what I want to call this one
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: Tiger on July 07, 2009, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: Night Vision on July 07, 2009, 09:51:48 PM
do I get to name it? I missed the last couple because they went so fast.... but I know what I want to call this one

::) Editors licence... ::) ;D  :D :D :D :D :D... ;) on ya go bro'...
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: Night Vision on July 07, 2009, 10:17:16 PM
INTRODUCING.......                                                    


....... Engine No. 12                                                    


wait, are your fire trucks RED up there?




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(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss277/djuhr2/chili%20pepper/bike_pictures_011.jpg?t=1247019028)


you need to start hand painting your name and the limited edition #'s on these beauts
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: vadasz1 on July 07, 2009, 11:11:51 PM
Did anyone notice that there are no tank seams showing........

The RED CARDINAL  is ready to leave the nest.
Title: Re: and another one!!!
Post by: Tiger on July 08, 2009, 06:41:45 AM
Quote from: Night Vision on July 07, 2009, 10:17:16 PM
wait, are your fire trucks RED up there?

:) Some are...
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: vadasz1 on July 08, 2009, 08:08:15 AM
Some firetrucks in small towns or cities are actually yellow.  YJ would be at home at that firehouse.  8)
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: kev10104 on July 08, 2009, 09:13:15 AM
That looks fantastic Tiger.
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: YellowJacket! on July 08, 2009, 04:22:11 PM
OMG!!! That is a Sweet looking Vision!  That read looks fantastic and really stands out.  Very visible Vision.

David
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: vadasz1 on July 08, 2009, 04:40:35 PM
And the RED wire at the starter looks almost as bright.
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: Re-Vision on July 08, 2009, 05:05:59 PM
Beautiful, bright as a brake light.. I have wondered what a Vision would look like with all the side plastics painted the color of the bike.  BDC
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: YellowJacket! on July 08, 2009, 05:10:48 PM
Tiger,
You guys need to paint the fork lowers and the peg mounts gloss black like I did to YJ.  I used Appliance Black - Gloss.  Got the idea from Brian.

That bike would look AWESOME with it.

David
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: Tiger on July 08, 2009, 08:56:12 PM
 :) Thank you all for your positive comments 8)

These Vision's are a "team" effort between Kev10104, vadasz1, Canadian_lou and I...without there help all this wouldn't be as easy to do, so thank you "Team Vision"... 8)

Dave, I left the Aluminum finish on the peg mounts/fork lowers to give this Vision symmetry...the aluminum flows across the bottom line of the Vision for that reason  ;)

BDC, I have the paint work on "The Mistress" done the same way, which I like... ;)

I'm looking for a pair of VISION gas tank badges to finish her off...anyone :-\

#14 will be a Star Silver model repainted in...Ahhhhhh, wait and see ;D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

                         
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: YellowJacket! on July 08, 2009, 09:02:28 PM
Hmmmm Cardinal "Rojas"

Agreed on the symetry.  Didn't look at it from that point. Either way, it would look good...looks great.

David
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: Rick G on July 09, 2009, 01:10:47 AM
tiger , it sure looks great!  I wish Vadasz lived closer so i could get him to paint mine.  Beautiful job Robert!!
David black running gear IS a matter of taste. I detest the look of aluminum that is painted black . I stripped the paint off of my forks. It just looks (to me ) like they were to lazy to polish it so the painted it black or silver , like some engine cases.
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: funkamongus on July 09, 2009, 09:52:35 AM
HEY!! You moulded the seems!! Nice look!
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: joevacc on July 09, 2009, 11:47:00 AM
Quote from: Tiger on July 08, 2009, 08:56:12 PM
I'm looking for a pair of VISION gas tank badges to finish her off...anyone :-\
                         
8).......TIGER....... 8)

Have you tried Yamaha?  I bought some a while back and I don't remember them being too expensive.
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: funkamongus on July 09, 2009, 11:52:29 AM
REALLY?!?!?! I need to look into that too.. I tried to find tank emblems for my virago but nowhere,, not yamaha, not anywhere.. Found a guy who can re-pop em for about 90 a pair.. less if more people are in on it..
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: YellowJacket! on July 09, 2009, 03:51:21 PM
Quote from: joevacc on July 09, 2009, 11:47:00 AM
Quote from: Tiger on July 08, 2009, 08:56:12 PM
I'm looking for a pair of VISION gas tank badges to finish her off...anyone :-\
                         
8).......TIGER....... 8)

Have you tried Yamaha?  I bought some a while back and I don't remember them being too expensive.

John, I have some very nice (excellent condition) Silver  Chrome Tank Badges if you are interested. I can post a couple pictures.  Theyr'e off a different model Yamaha but with a little coaxing, will work fine.

David
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...
Post by: Tiger on July 09, 2009, 10:14:38 PM


                 
8).......SOLD!!!....... 8)
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...SOLD
Post by: vadasz1 on July 09, 2009, 11:44:08 PM
I hope you got that Brazilian Bandita Kiss ! ! !   8)

Hwo did the new couple like the bike?  Were they impressed with ALL the work that Team Vision had done to the CARDINAL?
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...SOLD
Post by: Cdnlouie on July 12, 2009, 12:31:13 AM
For those of you who don't know Tiger's signature  ??? on his Visions it is the "RED" starter wire  ::).  You can see it first, and then the rider, and eventually the bike on approach  ;D. For all time his Visions will always be known by the "RED" starter wire.  You can never steal one of them and not catch the guy by finding the "RED" starter wire.  This may the first one that it actually goes with...congratulations old boy!  Nice job!  ;)

The "Black" Starter Wire Guy.

...and the bugger of it all is, he actually has "Black" starter wire.
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...SOLD
Post by: Tiger on July 12, 2009, 06:25:41 AM
Quote from: Cdnlouie on July 12, 2009, 12:31:13 AM
For those of you who don't know Tiger's signature  ??? on his Visions it is the "RED" starter wire  ::).  

:laugh: It took a wee while but someone had to figure it out ::) ;D :D :D :D :D It just saves me "signing" the Vision, when its finished, in the traditional way...with a paint brush!!!

               
8).......TIGER....... 8)

BTW...if someone wants cables all in Black, thats not a problem for me... ;)
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...SOLD
Post by: Tiger on July 15, 2009, 06:59:52 AM
 :) Since she left to be with her new owner, she has been back a couple of times... ;)

After getting her new coat of Red paint, the gas tank sprang a leak!!! A paint blister popped up on the right side at the lowest point at the rear of the tank. I cut it open with a knife blade and she peed gas out of a wee pin hole :o Kinda spoiled the paint around the immediate lower area ::) I successfully repaired the leak and touched up the now unpainted area...

The mechanic failed the Vision during her safety cert' as he wasn't entirely happy with the front brake...I disagree, but hey!!...I have now installed new brake pads and all is well. This is my first "fail" ::)

A couple of other wee "tweaks" have also been done... ;)

As I explained to the new owner...(who lurks around the ROV ;) )...that I expect wee "Gremlins" showing up after sleeping for several years ;) Happily he agreed... 8)

Other than the odds 'n sods, the new owner is VERY happy with the Vision...so much so, Dave prefers her to his Harley 1200 Sportster!!!

Give me more converts... ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

             
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...SOLD
Post by: funkamongus on July 15, 2009, 09:51:32 AM
Things happen,, Its good the new owner has someone like you who has integrity and a real love for the bikes.. Instead of saying, you bought it, its your problem now,,, you hooked him up.. Good on you. What a nice guy and gentleman to boot,,, ok, no more insults. I guess there was no reason for name calling, sorry,,,, I just wanted to say, Im proud to know ya. I wish there were more like ya in the world.
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...SOLD
Post by: kev10104 on July 15, 2009, 03:00:15 PM
Well said and truer words were never spoken.
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...SOLD
Post by: YellowJacket! on July 15, 2009, 08:44:12 PM
I nominate Tiger for Visionary of the Year.......Again.  :D  You've earned it.

David
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...SOLD
Post by: Tiger on July 16, 2009, 07:16:21 AM
 :-[ Aaaaw shucks... :-[

...but seriously, I can't warranty a twentysomething year old Vision :o ::), that would be plain nuts!!! However, I tell all the new owners that if their new ride fails the safety cert' because I over-looked/missed, something, then I'll put it right at my cost.

Also, after the "long sleep" most of these Vision's have had, its plain stupid to think that they will perform like a new bike off of a showroom floor once they are fired up for the first time in eon's ::) There WILL be problems to resolve, little tweaks here and there, gremlins to exorcise!!!...hey, its not rocket science ;) but it is fun ;D :D :D :D :D :D... 8)

Honesty is still the best policy in my books...

                       
8).......TIGER ....... 8)
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...SOLD
Post by: YellowJacket! on July 16, 2009, 10:14:26 AM
When you are selling something that is used, there is a built in expectation on the buyers part (pr at least there should be) that things may not be perfect.  As long as you disclose what you know at the time of the sale and what the buyers expectations should be (it also helps to know the expectations of the buyer), then you are "covered" as long as you don't knowingly sell something defective.

In Tigers case, mine and many others, we take an awful lot of pride in what we do, and IMHO, its sort of an ambarrasment if something isn't right, so naturally, we have to make it right.

David
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...SOLD
Post by: funkamongus on July 16, 2009, 10:32:08 AM
Its the right thing,, and the right thing is not as common as it used to be.
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...SOLD
Post by: kev10104 on July 16, 2009, 01:00:31 PM
That is onething you find with vision riders and our friends who accompany us.They are all good people with the best of intentions at heart.How could you ask for any more?
Title: Re: and another one!!! with pictures...SOLD
Post by: funkamongus on July 16, 2009, 01:21:47 PM
yep,, I like it here.. This is the best biking experience Ive ever had, and it has little to do with the bike!!!