A "First"???

[Tiger]

 :) For me anyway!!! Now, bare in mind before you read on, this Vision came in to my place, from a new member, as a non-runner, like most do...........

I decided, as I'm waiting for parts delivery, to remove the left side engine cover and check the starter clutch, balancer nut, etc...(as normal!!).

I eyeballed the starter clutch bolt threads and found one backing out... ::) Ah, no big deal ::)

so, I pulled the flywheel from the shaft and as it bounced along the garage floor...yes, flywheels do fly!!!...the starter clutch was sitting on the shaft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...ALL three soc head cap screws had sheared off at some point...NO WONDER THE BUGGER HAD STARTING ISSUES for the previous owner (wanker!!!) ...GO FIGURE, EH!!!

The starter clutch and flywheel are FUBAR'd >:( ::) So once again, the flywheel/starter clutch assembly that I have for my spare motor, was installed...bugger!!! New gasket made, side cover reinstalled, new Stainless Steel soc head cap screws replaced the oem ones and new oil and filter installed.

                   8).......TIGER....... 8)

[funkamongus]

Well, THERES your problem!!!!!!

[kev10104]

Can't you just smell the riding season coming buddy?It will be another awesome one!

[dcsob]

HMM,
Tiger,
assuming this is the V from the dude who runs the courier service. The poor guy counted on "professionals" to run diagnostics and fix the problem. He paid alot of his hard earned dollars for this priviledge. It's very sad and yet it's very telling about the competence or lack thereof of some of the "mechanics" out in the world.
It's sad because these are the pro's. Taught at schools, with the paper that says "I Know What I am Doing" you peasant, now away with thee whilst I conjure up the spirits that are beyond your comprehension. 
I venture to say and say correctly IMHO that a self taught mech who gives a hang could have caught it just by listening and "thinking".
Yet someone who is self taught couldn't even get into the door to change a tire at most places, sigh.
I haven't darkened the door of a dealership since 1979 when I got hosed big time. I don't trust them because they don't care, to most it's just a job. That opinion isn't the one I want from anyone who would work  on anything.
To make it clear, if there aint no passion in the person about what they do I'll look elsewhere till I find it.
Good day.

[funkamongus]

well said. When its me, MPH, two wheels, and asphalt, I try to trust everything about it, especially who worked on it.. I trust me. Not Joe Blow at the stealership who doesnt wanna work on your bike, anyway, because its too old, in his rough estimation.

[Night Vision]

Tiger, don't you mean to say......

.....So once again, the flywheel/starter clutch assembly that I have for my spare motor, was installed... and a brandy new one was ordered courtesy of the owner

[funkamongus]

LOL... and revision to my earlier post,, I trust Tiger too!!!

[jasonm.]

Tiger,
 Were they original bolts? black 12.9 grade . The 12.9 can be seen on the heads. Usually when loose , the 12.9s wobble out the threads in the flywheel. I know you know your hardware. BUT WAIT! you used stainless? I hope not on the clutch. STainless usually is only grade 2.

[Tiger]

Tiger,
 Were they original bolts? black 12.9 grade . The 12.9 can be seen on the heads. Usually when loose , the 12.9s wobble out the threads in the flywheel. I know you know your hardware. BUT WAIT! you used stainless? I hope not on the clutch. STainless usually is only grade 2.

:) Black as the ace of spades & 12.9, for sure...I kept everything for Mike to see!!!

The Stainless Steel ones are for the engine side cover...

dcsob ... No, not the courier dude...this guy, Mike, is a new member (or will be by spring) to our group.

N_V...will be...LOL

Funk'...I trust me to...LOL

[motoracer8]

 It's amazing the so called pros could'nt figure that one out, ramp and roller type starter clutches have been used on motorcycles of all brands for a long time.

  Ken G.

[Tiger]

 :) The three starter clutch rollers were kaput too...!!! forgot to mention them ::)

               8).......TIGER....... 8)

[jasonm.]

Nice to know ...Black 12.9,  is beautiful