Riders Of Vision

Hello Vision riders. I live in SW Ontario. I have been reading old posts for a couple of days to learn more about this oddball Yamaha. A lot of good stuff here. I am in the market for another vintage ride so maybe there is a Vision in my future. I currently ride a modern Wee Strom and a 1972 CL175 plus have an '76 XS360 on the bench as a long term winter project.

 :) Hi and welcome to our family... 8) Where are you located  ??? I'm in Erin, between Guelph and Orangeville Ontario ;)

                   

That Great White North division just keeps on growing!  Welcome to the forum & hope you decide to become a true rider of Vision.  Not only is the bike an oddball, but so are most of us who own them!   ;D

H₂O

Them Canadians have lots of Vision......

David

Tiger is spreading the word

Quote from: h2olawyer on August 04, 2008, 02:22:45 PM
... but so are most of us who own them!   ;D

:o Hey, I resemble that remark ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

                       

Quote from: Tiger on August 04, 2008, 03:05:37 PM

Quote from: h2olawyer on August 04, 2008, 02:22:45 PM
... but so are most of us who own them!   ;D

:o Hey, I resemble that remark ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

                       

8).......TIGER....... 8)

Wouldn't have said it had it not applied to myself as well.   :D

H₂O

Quote from: Tiger on August 04, 2008, 08:56:14 AM
:) Hi and welcome to our family... 8) Where are you located  ??? I'm in Erin, between Guelph and Orangeville Ontario ;)

                   

8).......TIGER....... 8)

Hey Tiger you live in a nice riding area. I occasionally get to the Hockley Valley for some riding. I live on the Ontario Michigan border in Sarnia.  The roads around here are like a pool table, flat and boring.

Don't forget to order your 'ONTARIO CHAPTER' key tag...... ;D

Quote from: xswheels on August 04, 2008, 06:45:27 PM
Hey Tiger you live in a nice riding area. I occasionally get to the Hockley Valley for some riding. I live on the Ontario Michigan border in Sarnia.  The roads around here are like a pool table, flat and boring.

I/we rode around your area last summer at Wolf's weekend OnROV ride and had a great time. Wolf has two Vision's and lives in Watford. He's a great guy to get to know.

The OnROV fall ride in September is open to non-Vision riders, if your interested and don't own a Vision by then... ;)

                     

I think there are four curves, in total, in Lambton County.Welcome to the vision forum, xswheels---btw, seems to me there was someone in the Sarnia area that had a vision for sale just recently--maybe Tiger remembers. Drop me a pm, maybe come out and have a look at my v's--although the re-vision is leaking like a stuck pig, and the flying banana is suffering from electrical problems.--wolf.

Wolf   PM sent

I AM A NEW MEMBER ALSO AND JUST BOUGHT A 1983 VISION.wOULD'NT START PROPERLY AND AM BEING TOLD IT'S PROBABLY THE STATOR.tHIS IS MY FIRST BIKE SO i HOPE i GET TO RIDE IT SOON.i'M IN oSHAWA,oNTARIO.

Kev: Welcome.

The first thing I learnt when I bought my V was that this is a special bike. This denoting that a lot of 'know-a-lot-about-bikes-guys' often are wrong about their guesses. Luckily here are some folks at this site that both knows a lot about V's and know to share the knowledge.

Describe your start-problems, and I promise: you will get educated guesses that will help you forward.

Good luck!

QuoteI AM A NEW MEMBER ALSO AND JUST BOUGHT A 1983 VISION.wOULD'NT START PROPERLY AND AM BEING TOLD IT'S PROBABLY THE STATOR.tHIS IS MY FIRST BIKE SO i HOPE i GET TO RIDE IT SOON.i'M IN oSHAWA,oNTARIO.

Kev:

Good on you for getting a V.  There are about 20 of us in Ontario with about 95% of us in the GTA area and the surrounding hoods.  If you really want someone to give it agood look over for you, you should get in touch with our Visionmeister, Visionguru, Visiondalilama.  He also is known to us as Tiger.  He rsides in the hamlet of Erin just half hour north of Mississauga where I and Canadian Louie are from. 

BTW, who did you buy the '83 from and what colour is it?  Post some pics if you have them.  Don't forget that the '83 is special as it has a few parts that were made for just that year bike and not for the '82s.

Rider her hard and she should put a BIG smile on your face.

;D

Quote from: kev10104 on August 14, 2008, 05:06:25 AM
I AM A NEW MEMBER ALSO AND JUST BOUGHT A 1983 VISION.wOULD'NT START PROPERLY AND AM BEING TOLD IT'S PROBABLY THE STATOR.tHIS IS MY FIRST BIKE SO i HOPE i GET TO RIDE IT SOON.i'M IN oSHAWA,Ontario.

:) Hi Kev and welcome to the ROV family, the best place a Vision can bring a new/old owner too 8) We are all here to help you to get the very best out of your Vision.

Look on the bright side...It is not if but when a Vision stator dies, you got yours early ;)

           

I appreciate all the welcomes.a buddy from work works at victory motorcycle and is looking at it for me.It starts great with a fully charged battery but the battery drains after riding it and then I'm shit out of luck.The battery dies after about an hour of riding.

Quote from: kev10104 on August 14, 2008, 10:32:09 PM
...a buddy from work works at victory motorcycle and is looking at it for me.

Ah, Victory Cycle in Brampton. They got my first Vision, "The Mistress", back on the road four years ago. Cleaned the gas tank/carb's out, full service, tune up, safety, etc...all for $700/$750.00. They did a great job but I have done all my own work ever since.

                           

The Victory dealership is in Curtis.I just ordered the manual so I'm hoping to be able to do lots of future work myself.getting a little impatient though.I called them today and they have not even looked at my bike yet.

Quote from: kev10104 on August 16, 2008, 12:23:47 AM
The Victory dealership is in Curtis.I just ordered the manual so I'm hoping to be able to do lots of future work myself.getting a little impatient though.I called them today and they have not even looked at my bike yet.

:) Oh, you mean a Victory dealer!!! Unless they have someone who knows there way around a Vision, you may wait a while :o...and still not have her fixed!!!

Lucky, here on the ROV, has a CD/DVD which contains: Workshop and parts manuals, owners hand book, helpfull tips and hints, OEM advertising brochures, etc, etc...It is a very worthwhile purchase for anyone, new or experienced with Vision's 8)

I'm quite happy to help you, were I can... ;)

               

Quote from: Tiger on August 16, 2008, 07:46:46 AM
:) Oh, you mean a Victory dealer!!! Unless they have someone who knows there way around a Vision, you may wait a while :o...and still not have her fixed!!!

               

8).......TIGER........ 8)  

They probably can work on a Victory Vision . . .   ;)

H₂O

I appreciate all the help and advice from everyone.This is my first bike and am kind of lost.I didn't have a clue where to bring my bike but a buddy from work is involved with Victory and said his mechanic used to race these bikes.I hope he is right because I just want to ride.I feel a little taken advantaged of because I'm sure the prvious owner knew he was selling me a bike with issues.i still think I have a great bike because it rides awesome I'm just hoping it doesn'y cost me an arm and a leg.

Most Visions will have some issues when they are sold.  Sometimes the owner knows & doesn't want to do the work & other times, the owner is just clueless.

Owning any 25 year old bike requires some patience, fortitude and mechanical skills.  If you learn to work on the Vision yourself, you gain confidence in your mechanical skills and know the work you've done to your bike was done right - assuming you followed the directions.  It takes some time and you need to start out doing the more simple projects, then just move up to the next level.  Consider it an education.  If you are fortunate, you will find a mechanic who has heard of a Vision.  If you are incredibly fortunate, you find one who actually has experience successfully working on them.  The day you find one of those, go buy a lottery ticket - your odds of winning are higher than finding a knowledgable Vision mechanic at a shop.   ;D

Hope you get the issues worked out without too much financial discomfort.

H₂O

Me too and thank you.

Could someone tell me what kind of motor oil to use for a 1983 vision.Thanks.

Technically you can use any oil that does not have friction modifiers, HOWEVER, I highly recomend using motorcycle oil spec'd for wet clutches.  The clutch pack sits in a bath of motor oil and if you use standard car motoroil the friction modifiers (zinc) will cause the clutch to slip.  I use bel-ray full sythetic, it's really exspensive, but it's reaaaaalllllly slick.  I notice lower operating temps and smoother shifting.  It does weap out of seals a bit more than non-syn oils, but I feel that's just evidence of good things happening inside.

 :) I use Castrol motorcycle oil...available at your local Walmart or Canadian Tire...

                 

You can use the synthetic car oils now.  Just make sure it is not marked as 'Conserving' 

I appreciate all of your help.

Just look at the circle on the back , which states the performance level. If it states ,in the bottom of the circle "Energy Conserving" I wouldn't put it in my car, let alone a bike. If the area in he bottom of the circle is blank , then is alright . I've used this type of oil for 6 or 7 years with no , clutch problems.

It's been over a month since I bought my vision and still can't ride it.It's been in the shop for 3 weeks because it needed a stater.The shop said they couldn't find one so I ordered it from the states and recieved it last Monday and dropped ot off.I was hoping to be able to ride for the long weekend.Guess I am going to have to put ski's on it to ride this year if I ever get it back.

I think you've found a place to avoid in the future. Most new bike shops don't want to work on old bikes and many won't! Did you get a price quote on the work? A competent mechanic should be able to replace a stator in less than 2 hours(H2O Lawyer can do it in less). But that won't guarantee your charging system is fixed.
If you have tools and any mechanical competance at all you should plan to do your own repairs. As we say, a Vision is never done! Good luck.

Finally got my bike back today and headed straight for the highway.I just loved it.I think I will need another mechanic though.

Quote from: kev10104 on September 05, 2008, 01:07:19 AM
Finally got my bike back today and headed straight for the highway.I just loved it.I think I will need another mechanic though.

:) Great news... 8) Bring her to the Fall Ride and you will have several Vision guys to help you. Wolf, who you have met, is riding up on the Friday, (19th)... 8)

                               

Suggest you check your charging system voltage output with a multimeter set on vdc, testing across the battery at idle and up to about 6k RPM.  Purpose is to get a baseline with your new stator coil and to determine the condition of your RR.  I would like to know what you find.

I will check that and I might be able to make the ride.I'm working on it anyway.