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Title: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: kwells on January 11, 2008, 12:59:47 AM
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i stole this pic
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: h2olawyer on January 11, 2008, 01:08:13 AM
LOTS of skin to scrub after that bit of road rash!

ALL THE GEAR ALL THE TIME!!!

While she's not too bright riding without proper gear, the guy should be in jail for his criminal stupidity even getting close to low siding with a passenger - let alone one not properly attired for the ride.  I'd be surprised if that relationship is still on firm ground.   ::)

H2O
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: kwells on January 11, 2008, 01:09:21 AM
Hey that left flip-flop foam will absorb most of the impact Im sure
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: inanecathode on January 11, 2008, 01:24:27 AM
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Aforementioned flipflop foam :o
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: louthepou on January 11, 2008, 11:26:34 AM
What a perfect picture. The very moment when the rider realizes the front wheel is pointing in a different direction than where the bike's going. While the passenger is probably not quite there yet... Ouch. In french, I'd say "Bin bon pour elle!" (i.e. well that's too bad for her, stupid enough to ride half naked).
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: kwells on January 11, 2008, 11:47:53 AM
by the look of how tense here right shoulder and arm are, I'd say she's not far behind in realizing that she will soon be cheese grated
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: YellowJacket! on January 11, 2008, 12:29:26 PM
cheese grated at the very least. she is in for years of hurt.

David
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Paul@Sheffield on January 11, 2008, 05:46:31 PM
Why would somebody ride like that. I, having fallen off in snow, skidded on ice (twice and come off) and being knocked off once, know how important protection is. Could such as these have never experienced a fall, or just don't learn.
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Tiger on January 11, 2008, 05:57:34 PM
  ::) Pain never seems to hurt much when your a teenager ::) I mean, hey, whats a few battle scar's...skin grows back in again, right!!!

Its the 'Awww, it will NEVER happen to me" syndrome... ::) >:( Stupidity rules, eh!!!
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: mdskinner731 on January 11, 2008, 06:44:25 PM
ill admit it.. i dont ride with all the protective gear i should... (or would like to... it costs lil bit to much money right now but im slowly getting it) but i also aint that stupid i kno my limits and dont try to exceed them... long story short im young and dumb, but that guy makes me look smart ;D   ;D   ;D
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Coil Coyle on January 11, 2008, 07:31:41 PM
It's not yet time to determine if that's a low side or a high side.

If the front wheel hooks up and the contact patch travels to the left, the bike rotates about the CG and they vault over to the right; I think it's a high side.

If her foot lubricates the contact area in the rear, the bike rotates CCW around the CG and the front tire doesn't hook up; it's a low side.

$0.02
;)
Coil
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: YellowJacket! on January 11, 2008, 07:42:16 PM
I work with a girl that was an unprotected passenger on a bike that her BF was riding beyond his menas.  Neither had protection other than a helmet and he lost control.  He was killed she has deep scars on both shoulders and completely down one of her arms for which she hides with long sleeves.  She also told me she has even worse scars that she can't show me.  SHe says she will never ride agian and wishes I didn't either.  Hmmmm.

David
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Coil Coyle on January 11, 2008, 07:47:33 PM
Quote from: DaveTN on January 11, 2008, 07:42:16 PM
I work with a girl that was an unprotected passenger on a bike that her BF was riding beyond his menas.  Neither had protection other than a helmet and he lost control.  He was killed she has deep scars on both shoulders and completely down one of her arms for which she hides with long sleeves.  She also told me she has even worse scars that she can't show me.  SHe says she will never ride agian and wishes I didn't either.  Hmmmm.

David

Did they high side or low side?
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Rick G on January 12, 2008, 01:08:58 AM
Its a low side , The front wheel is off the ground or just about to leave it.the bike may flop to the right but more than likely there going to fall of the "botton' .
Stupidity reigns supreme . Riding in sandals,  shorts and sleeveless top , he's not much better. I have observed many times , female riders in bikinis  and not much else, perched on the "seat" of  a sport bike .

I'm guilty of not wearing my jacket  in the summer here in AZ. its just too hot on a local run . Its a toss up between road rash or heat prostration. But when I hit the open road (figuratively), and can get enough air flow, I wear the jacket. This is a helmet optional state and most of these morons don't even own a helmet, But then, we are not going to loose much in their demise.
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: kwells on January 12, 2008, 01:12:28 AM
buy Rick if she's in a bikini I'm ok with that too


well most of the time

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Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Ron_McCoy on January 12, 2008, 09:57:46 AM
He could still save it.  Plenty of road to work with,  don't panic, never give up........HaHaHaHaHaHaHa
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: supervision on January 12, 2008, 10:08:01 AM
 I agree with Ron, he still has time to save it.
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: YellowJacket! on January 12, 2008, 10:40:43 AM
Any follow up photos?  Did he save it?

Coil,  Not sure if it was a low or high.  She said she thought something was in the road but doesn't remember much after that.  Her shoulders look bad...really bad.

David
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Tiffanator on January 12, 2008, 08:08:33 PM
All of the guys on supersports around here ride like that... although their pegs have never been that close to the ground. I see them pulling into the apartment complex across from work in shorts, a tank top, sandals and a helmet and think... yep.. they've never kissed pavement. Me... I ALWAYS have on gloves and helmet. 98% of the time have on jacket, gloves, helmet, boots and very, very rarely I will cruise 1/4 mile to my bros house on private roads with just gloves, helmet and boots. In my thinking, the one thing people skimp on the most, boots, is a very important thing.. just the though of my ankle and lower leg being trapped under the bike while sliding down the road makes my toes curl. Now if it was lubricated with sandal foam, it may be a different story.  ;D
Tiff.
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Ron_McCoy on January 13, 2008, 01:01:36 AM
Just gloves, helmet, and boots? You must get a lot of attention dressed like that.  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Rick G on January 13, 2008, 02:01:29 AM
Tiff, where is it you ride dressed in just gloves , helmet and boots, I think I should change where I ride!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Kwells , it makes one wish, for a canoe paddle :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( ! Or maybe a pool que! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Coil Coyle on January 13, 2008, 10:17:34 AM
Quote from: DaveTN on January 12, 2008, 10:40:43 AM
Any follow up photos?  Did he save it?

Coil,  Not sure if it was a low or high.  She said she thought something was in the road but doesn't remember much after that.  Her shoulders look bad...really bad.

David

Sounds like a high side, that would give her body the chance to flip onto her shoulders and then her butt. If it had been a low side her leg and elbow would be like Tiffanator's toe curling fantasy.

:o
Coil
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Tiffanator on January 13, 2008, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: Rick G on January 13, 2008, 02:01:29 AM
Tiff, where is it you ride dressed in just gloves , helmet and boots, I think I should change where I ride!!!!
Just right around the neigborhood here, all the neighbors come out and wave when I do, especially the mexican guys building the house down the street, they are all so friendly.  ;D I can't imagine why they aren't like that when I'm fully dressed.
Tiff.  ;)
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Tiger on January 13, 2008, 11:57:37 AM
Quote from: Tiffanator on January 13, 2008, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: Rick G on January 13, 2008, 02:01:29 AM
Tiff, where is it you ride dressed in just gloves , helmet and boots, I think I should change where I ride!!!!
Just right around the neighborhood here, all the neighbors come out and wave when I do, especially the Mexican guys building the house down the street, they are all so friendly.  ;D I can't imagine why they aren't like that when I'm fully dressed.
Tiff.  ;)

8) Hmmmmmm, according to mapquest....I can be at yours in 18 hour's & 39 minute's, (1160.66mile's!!!)... :o Do you ride in the early hour's :o ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

               
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Lucky on January 13, 2008, 03:30:54 PM
Now Now, leave the lady alone (she'd probably kick your ass anyway & if not, i'm sure S/O would)  :D
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: vadasz1 on January 13, 2008, 06:09:04 PM
Quote from: Tiger on January 13, 2008, 11:57:37 AM
Quote from: Tiffanator on January 13, 2008, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: Rick G on January 13, 2008, 02:01:29 AM
Tiff, where is it you ride dressed in just gloves , helmet and boots, I think I should change where I ride!!!!
Just right around the neighborhood here, all the neighbors come out and wave when I do, especially the Mexican guys building the house down the street, they are all so friendly.  ;D I can't imagine why they aren't like that when I'm fully dressed.
Tiff.  ;)

8) Hmmmmmm, according to mapquest....I can be at yours in 18 hour's & 39 minute's, (1160.66mile's!!!)... :o Do you ride in the early hour's :o ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

               
8).......TIGER....... 8)

leave it to Johnny and his Irish wit.
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Tiffanator on January 14, 2008, 08:12:21 AM
You guys are too funny.  ;D Tiger... I ride anytime I want to.
Lucky... no S/O, but I can hand over a pretty good ass kicking if I want to.  ;)
If anyone does decide to come.. bring a stator! Ha ha!
Tiff.
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: don_vanecek on January 14, 2008, 09:51:23 AM
Headline in the Omaha World Herald Sunday was that the yearly bill to modify Nebraska's mandatory helmet law will be the first bill to come up in the 2008 legislative session. A group called ABATE talks on their web site how they are not against helmet use, but.....  I have to chuckle at part of their defence for dumping the helmet law is that all the bikers going to Sturgis "avoid" going through NE due to our helmet law.  Duh, look at the map, unless your coming up from Kansas, your most likely not going to take I-80 anyway-and they go on to say how hundreds of other bikers avoid NE and we loose lots of money because of this.  Who knows, this maybe the year they succeed. Young riders up to 21 would still be mandatory under the new bill. Can't wait to see all those Sturgis riders going across NE on I-80 next year instead of I-90 in SD!   
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: h2olawyer on January 14, 2008, 10:36:28 AM
But most of your Nebraska roads are so well suited for a Harley!!!

Tiff - I have a whole pile of stators.  Too bad they're all fried.   ::)

H2O
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Lucky on January 14, 2008, 07:01:03 PM
Actually Tiff, i meant our S/O's, not yours!
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Tiffanator on January 15, 2008, 07:28:31 AM
H20... well that doesn't help me any. I think I have one that I can add to your collection. Maybe you should make a statue out of them.. and ode to the Vision.  ;D
Lucky... ah... yes... you are most likely correct on that one.

Its funny... Mississippi has a helmet law but I really don't hear of people complaining about it much. There is one event here called Little Sturgis where they allow people to ride around the event grounds without a helmet, but not outside the area. Honestly, it doesn't take a law to get me to wear a helmet. Now if they make me start wearing one on a bicycle...  >:(
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: don_vanecek on January 15, 2008, 10:15:25 AM
Tiff, I had a nice spill on a bike a few years ago, just riding around, probably looking up at something, hit a two or three in diameter stick in the road-that had I been paying attention to what I was doing could easily have been avoided or ridden over.  I tell you when 220 lbs of middle aged man goes down it hurts. I was able keep my unprotected head from hitting the pavement and was lucky I had a light jacket on or the skin would have been damaged abit. Boy did I ever feel dumb as I picked myself up. I normally wear a bike helmet now.

The whole conclusion to wearing protective gear, helmets, seat belts in your car, etc, is that at the time of crisis, events are now beyond your control and if your not all ready prepared to handle the crisis, well then you pay the piper! (oh you know that, I better get off this soap box!)   
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Aelwulf on January 15, 2008, 11:14:45 AM
I mostly wear a bike helmet for some almosts.  I've a mountain bike and have nearly taken a header over the handlebars a few times hitting roots.  I have taken a header over once trying to jump a bruch pile and the back tire landed in the leaves on the side stopping the bike.  Thankfully it was just soft dirt.  I've also been doing roughly 30 down a hill, had a van pass by me then about 20 feet up suddenly decide to stop and slow-crawl turn to the right directly in front of me.  If I had a horn I'd have been leanin' on it as I didn't have room to stop.  My side-skids messin' around at the house though paid off as I wound up doing that and going 90 degrees about four inches from the side of the van then cutting around the back (good thing no traffic at the time).  By the time I turned around to glare at 'em and think about going back they were finally moving along again.

So yeah, bike helmets still aren't quite the coolest but they are getting better and could be worth it.
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: kwells on January 15, 2008, 01:20:15 PM
I now have 2 helmets for motorcycles, one for snowboarding, and one for mtn biking. Mountain biking by far is the easiest to go down.  But   I hit my head a few winters ago on some ice and one of my arms went numb.  That's all it took to realize that isn't so safe either.

Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Aelwulf on January 15, 2008, 02:35:12 PM
I'm not so worried about my head on a snowboard as I am my chin.  Sure a helmet's a good idea but I cracked my chin on an outcropping of ice once and it rattled my head the rest of the day.  I think I got a minor concussion but never got confirmation, the effects were gone the next day.
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: h2olawyer on January 15, 2008, 04:43:22 PM
You would think that as safety conscious as I am about motorcycling, I'd be the same about skiing.  Not so.  I've been skiing since 1964 - many of those years 5 to 7 days a week from mid-November through April.  Never wore a helmet & don't plan to start anytime soon.  I've had my share of massive "yard sales" (where your equipment gets spread over a significant area of ski slope during a fall), and even come away from a couple of them a little dazed.  I may reconsider the helmet if I get back into doing lots of tree skiing again but otherwise, I just find them too bulky for my liking.  Glad I have a choice in the matter.

I raced at the collegiate level -- slalom & giant slalom.  No helmets then either.  They may be required now, but my college days were when the NHL was just getting going with requiring helmets, so they just weren't really in the center of attention at the time.  Today's slalom technique requires helmets - not so much for crash protection, but rather to keep the gate poles from knocking you silly!  In fact, today's slalom racer wears a lot of armor - shins, forearms, gloves, helmet & a few even wear chest protectors similar to MX gear!  When I raced, it was padded shoulders on the sweater & padding on the thigh area of the pants.  Technique has really changed in 20 years.

H2O

If I had kids learning to ski, they'd be in helmets, though.
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: kwells on January 15, 2008, 05:08:31 PM
tree skiing and east coast ice will change your mind.
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: don_vanecek on January 16, 2008, 10:15:13 AM
Well, you will still have to wear a helmet in NE, the bill was defeated on a close call, 25-23.  Sorry, the Harley riders will just have to keep taking I-90 across South Dakota to Sturgis (as if they weren't going to anyway). 
Title: Re: Is THIS a low-side?
Post by: Rick G on January 16, 2008, 10:26:41 PM
Walking in the winter in Mn can be dangerous. It seems every winter, I slipped on the ice during the January thaw. Usually in a parking lot that hadn't been properly plowed . when the churned up snow  refroze it is treacherous to walk on. My experience crashing motorcycles may have helped , I always dropped my chin to my chest, in an effort to NOT crack my head on the ice. :D :D :D