Riders Of Vision

 :) On Monday I took s3sriniv, from Waterloo, Ontario, up to Fiddlesticks in Orillia, Ontario, to pick up her Vision and deliver it to s3sriniv's place...That done, today, I delivered Robert's Vision (a.k.a. Vadasz1) ...Two more Vision's for the Fall Ride, eh!!

8) Today I picked up number eight   from a Yamaha dealer's . (It was the one s3sriniv was going to buy but he got buggered around and bought Fiddlesticks instead). It is another Black '82 in fairly decent condition. Front brake is seized  ::) and also needs a CDI unit, (which I have), so the fun, once again, begins, eh!!!

Cathy will kill me when she finds out...Ah well, better to beg forgiveness, than ask permission!!!     

                               
;) I've asked Night_Vision if he would be kind enough to post picture's that I've sent him... 8)

Congratulations!! That's great! I almost bought another on monday for $50 but the guy sold out from under me >:(

Tiger - you won't be finished until everyone in Canada is riding a V!   ;D

H₂O

Quote from: h2olawyer on May 22, 2008, 06:13:39 PM
Tiger - you won't be finished until everyone in Canada is riding a V!   ;D

H₂O

8) Well, its one way to get "The most Vision's in one place" record, eh!!!

               

Tigers "Vision": one XZ550 for every Canadian.

David

Why don't we get Yamaha to help in that vision of supplying every Canadian with a Vision.  It would be a hoot to see what they could dream up as a modern Vision.  Since our Visions were ahead of their time back then, imagine how far advanced the next version of Visions could be if YAMAHA had the balls to do it again......... ;D

for your viewing pleasure: is that shadow I detect? sunshine even?

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It shows potential. Your one sick puppy.

 :) Initial "Look-see"...

:) The Good...12,506 Kl's = 7,816 Mile's, engine turns free, all the electrics (lights, indicators, horn, etc) seem O.K.

:o The Not-so-good...130 x 90 x 18 rear tire!!! battery is shot, both muffler's are patched up (pretty good actually!), T.C.I. unit is shot, front caliper is seized...

           

A handsome speciman indeed!  what an un-used bike, you have their

Tiger , you seem to have very good luck in finding  Visions that are redemable. Of my 8.5  + an engine,  Only 2 were really  restorable . In the Pacific  Northwest , they all seem to have rusted bores on one cylinder .
I put togeather  my spare, by collecting all the best pieces and  and putting them on a frame,I had a title to.

 :) Thanks for the positive comments guys 8)

I have only had to use three of the eight as "Donor" bike's...#2/3/4...3 & 4 where to far gone to even consider restoration. In hindsite, #2 was restorable, but at the time I needed part's for #1 = "The Mistress".  #5 went to Lil'Blaster, who now also has an '83!!, #6 being my '83 "The Canadian", #7 or "Lucky #7 is now with vadasz1 and now #8, "The Fat Lady"...

                 

Don't tell us it's over when The Fat Lady sings!

Quote from: Walt_M. on May 23, 2008, 06:44:00 AM
Don't tell us it's over when The Fat Lady sings!

:D :D :D Nice one Walt...In a word...NO!!! I'm hoping to get her to clear her throat this weekend :D :D :D... ;)

             

Wow Tiger, where do you find them? I am looking for a parts bike, but have had no luck yet. You should have gave me a call when you were in Orillia. You probably drove right past my road, could've had a refreshment and picked up the fairing.

 :) Don'r worry Dibble, as Arnie said "I'll be back" your way soon ;D :D :D :D :D :D

I have advertised on KIJIJI around all of Ontario...(nearly all!!). Any part(s), donor or complete bike(s) that come up, I pass on to the members...That is how Lil'Blaster got his '83 that I found last year 8)

It really is worth advertising on the free website's... 8)

               

Does the 130 90 actually clear the swing arm?? ???

Quote from: Rick G on May 23, 2008, 06:47:57 PM
Does the 130 90 actually clear the swing arm?? ???

:) It does Rick...but not a lot to spare, as I'm sure you will appreciate... :o

 :) She's alive, she's alive... 8)

:) Curiosity got the better of me tonight and I changed the T.C.I./C.D.I. unit, hooked up a charged battery, put the petcock to prime for a minute, pulled on the "choke", give the "Go faster" a couple of twists and...WADAYUKNOW...SHE LIVES... ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D... 8)

8) Now I'm happy... 8) I'm going to phone the shop that I got her from tomorrow and say listern...and fire her up!!! Sweeeeeeeeeet, eh!!!

                 

 :) Did a wee bit with her on Saturday...

Both rear lights were out, but not the brake lights  :-\ Replaced both bulbs with new 1157's... 8)

Headlight low beam was out, but not the high beam  :-\ Replaced with a new halogen bulb... 8)

Picked up new fuse holders on Saturday, in-line blade type with the fuse cover/cap on them. I'll be pulling the OEM fuse box and graft in the new ones to-day...

Checked the charging rate across the battery with a volt meter...."PING".... plus of sixteen volts!!! Guess I'll also be changing the R/R out to-day!!!

Princess Auto was having a sale on motorcycle cover's...black, 200 denier, water repellent nylon material...for only $15.55 for a large or $16.88 for an X-large!!! So I got one of each 8)

Looks like a beautifull riding day today...See you out there guy's... 8)

                 

 :) I couldn't give up such a nice riding day to really spend much time on "The Fat Lady" to-day :o ;D :D :D... ;) Enjoyed a beautifull day out riding "The mistress" with the wee wife on the back... 8)

However, once we arrived back home, I removed the old OEM fuse box, which was in good condition!!! and grafted in the new in-line fuse holder's, including the one in the headlight ::)

That done, I fired up the B.B.Q, flipped on a couple of great "T" bone steaks while the old girl fried up some onions, mushrooms and peppers. That and a couple of pints of Guiness...Mmmmmmmmm 8) One happy Tiger  8)

                 

I can hear the purrrrrrring from here!   ;D

H₂O

The only happy Tiger is a full bellied Tiger..... ;D

Nice bike, eh? You can never have too many motorcycles. I probably couldn't let that one go myself. I was in Ontario once--got pulled over for going too slow (driving to cautiously as if I may have had a wee drop). I wasn't drinking, and I told the cop I didn't want to end up in a foreign jail.

Ed--

 :) Up-date: To this point, I have...

* Installed a replacement T.C.I. unit as the original was blown... ::)

* Replaced the R/R, as the existing one was putting out plus of 16 volt's... :o
   I have also cut out the two white multi-pin R/R connection and relocated the R/R to the outside for cooler running... :)

* Replaced the ball bearings with a taper head set... :)

* Replaced the front forks with an already rebuilt set as both the existing seals were leaking... :)
   (I'll rebuild the original forks once every thing is completed and keep them for... ;)).

* Replaced the rear light and headlight bulb's as they where all blown... :o

* Replaced a handfull of OEM hardware with new product...and more to go!!! :)

                 

she'll be ready in no time, me thinks...

bag 'em, tag 'em, and sell 'em      eh?

  Hi Tiger,
     We are kicking about over in JOLLY OLD ....& we are keeping a look out for a # "Niner" for you. Does it ever stop Raining here?
We are down near Exeter and have been squired down to Lands End & Lizard Point we went mostly on B & C roads, can't believe how narrow the roads are with the hedges 6 ft. & higher above your heads.
  We are staying with Dorothy's brother Pat & his wife Jean who are having their Listed home roof re-thatched,what an operation that is ,but as they say it looks Magic!
      We will be back in the Colonies in early June.
                         Cherios  Ken & Dorothy
            ps Tiger please save up some coin for shipping. ;) ;)   

 :) Hey Kenny & Dorothy...The South West of England is really nice 8) Great roads for the Vision, eh!!!...the same kind of roads that Lawrence, (think Lawrence of Arabia) died riding his motorcycle on :o

According to Cathy, #9 is a new furnace ::) ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

A wee up-date, The new steering head tapered bearing I fitted have a couple of notches in them!!! I've ordered another set...::)...Work stopped for a wee while...(sigh)

                 

Tiger , that new furnace will cost you a whole lot more than a Vision!!!!! Best get multiple bids! :o :o :o

I got #10 alll lined up for tiger to adopt if he wants to..... ;D

A red & white '83 V, only about 50 miles away....... :o


But I might just make that #2 for me..... ;D

Quote from: vadasz1 on May 31, 2008, 09:51:49 AM
But I might just make that #2 for me..... ;D

:) Go for it Robert. Is it the one in New Market ?? Whats he asking...

He's actually in Aurora.  I'm hopping over tomorrow around noon time to see it.  It's an 83 red & white with the fairing.  So if I do decide to get it then there will be 2 'Canadians' ready for the fall ride. ;D

Maybe they were twins seperated at birth........ ::)

I'll let you know tomorrow with a post as to what he wants for it.

Story is , he got the bike last year as a payment for work done for a friend of his.  He rebuilt the starter but forgot to ask him whether he did the bolt peening as well, will ask tomorrow.  He said he'll let me run it up and down the street and said that since I am a 'Collector' to offer him a price first.  I hate it when people sell things or want to sell things without even knowing what they're items are worth.  But if I can scoop it out from under him then I will somehow, even if I have to ask for a loan athe Tiger Bank of Erin? ;D

Quote from: vadasz1 on May 31, 2008, 12:44:13 PM
.....So if I do decide to get it then there will be 2 'Canadians' ready for the fall ride. ;D

::) Not quite...There are 4 ahead of you in the red & white '83's...but only one "Canadian" buddy... ;)

Tiger.......1 x Red & White '83 + 2 x '82's, "The Mistress" & "Fat Lady".

LilBlaster..1 x Red & White '83 + a Black '82

Kenny......2  Red & White '83's + a Red & Yellow '83.

...and I do believe "Dibble" has sourced one as well... ;)

                 

Well since all the '82's have been fixed by Tiger looks like all the '83's are popping out of the barns........... ;D

 :) I removed, stripped down and rebuilt the front brake caliper today...Man did it take some work to get that piston out!!! 150 p.s.i. didn't budge it!!! I ended up alternating between soaking it in penetrating oil for 5 minutes and blowing in 150 p.s.i. It took several goes but finally "SHOT" out.

NOTE: If you haven't tried this procedure before, BEWARE...ALWAYS have the caliper on a solid surface, (I use the concrete floor of my garage), make sure the piston is facing downwards and keep your bloody fingers out of the way!!!

Once it was all stripped down, I cleaned off all the old, chipped paint from the main body and slider, washed everything in my parts washer, blow dried everything and repainted the main body/slider.

Once the paint was dry I rebuilt the caliper. Its now ready to go back on, as soon as I get the new steering head tapered bearings delivered & fitted... ;)

I also did the same thing on a pair of '83 calipers that I have...nearly have everything ready to install the '83 front end onto "The Mistress"...Just need to order up a set of Galfer S.S. Braided Brake Line's for her... 8)

               

Tiger I always stick a 9 inch Dowidat tyre iron in front of the piston ,against the two "horns" on the
caliper ( a large square shank screw driver will work also) so that when the piston fires out  :o :o :o,it stops right away, once it has moved , its an easy proposition to pull it out by hand.

 :) Rick, good point. I always use a piece of cotton towel, (between the piston & the concrete floor), folded over a couple of times...it cradles the piston enough to prevent the "horns" from getting damaged and catches any fluid spray.

             

I still think the best way to get the piston out is by using brake fluid and the master cylinder to pump it out. Just keep adding fluid and keep pumping....

of course if the fluid has turned to cheese.. then an alternate method needs to be employed

NV , I guess I'm doing it the way I was taught. Most motorcycle shops wouldn't want the mess and cost of  the brake fluid method, air is cheaper and quicker, too.

Quote from: Tiger on May 31, 2008, 05:07:39 PM
...Its now ready to go back on, as soon as I get the new steering head tapered bearings delivered & fitted... ;)

I also did the same thing on a pair of '83 calipers that I have...nearly have everything ready to install the '83 front end onto "The Mistress"...Just need to order up a set of Galfer S.S. Braided Brake Line's for her... 8)

I'm still waiting for delivery of the tapered bearings for "The Fat Lady"...but I have just ordered the '83 Galfer S.S. Braided Brake Line's for "The Mistress".
They are the last piece of the "Jigsaw"...!! I have the '83 forks, rotor's, calipers, master cylinder, etc, that will now allow me to put an '83 front end onto "The Mistress"...my'82...and I'll flip "The Mistress" front end onto "The Fat Lady"...complete with a Galfer S.S. Braided Brake Line!!! 
Once I get "The Fat Lady" back together, I have a Sting fairing ready to go onto her...I think that she is going to be the best of the three project Visions that I've rebuilt and put up for sale...so far ;)

               

 :) "The Fat Lady" is now back onto her own two feet....Ummmm, wheels I suppose :D :D :D :D... ;). I had originally put a set of tapered bearings in, (a new spare set)...but they had a couple of "notches" in them once tightened down, hmmmmmmm, not good!!! So I ordered up another set, from Pyramid. They where delivered on Thursday but today was the first chance to get back at her. I dropped the head out, removed the top bearing and laid them out on the work bench. I removed the bottom race...looked o.k...when I went to remove the top race, I noticed a wee crack!!! turns out the race had fractured in two places :o !!! and NO, I had not overtightened the head down...I removed the bottom bearing from the lower triple tree and installed the new set without any problems.

The rebuilt forks and brake caliper, fender, front wheel and speedo cable are all now reinstalled.

The front wheel bearings are good, so I greased them before installing the front wheel......(installed a new cotter pin and pinch bolt/washers & lock nut)...main axle castle nut torqued down to 80 foot pounds, (as specified).

I picked up a new battery for her at Walymart in Niagara Falls, New York yesterday...$29.99 (shelf price) and I also got $5.00 off for the old, shot battery at customer service!!! (Walmart in Canada are charging more than double their American counter parts for batteries and float chargers :o Bloody disgusting >:( ). That is now filled and on charge, using the new float charger that I also bought, (actually, I bought four of them ;)). The float charger will go to the new owner...whoever that may be 8)

8) Slowly but surely we are getting there :D :D :D :D :D... 8)

The tapered roller head bearings are tough and  not likely to be damaged by a little too much torque , anyway . I suspect yours were bad from the factory.

Quote from: Rick G on June 09, 2008, 02:27:59 AM
The tapered roller head bearings are tough and  not likely to be damaged by a little to much torque  anyway . I suspect your were bad from the factory.

:) My thoughts, as well. I have to admit that I was kind of surprised when I removed the race in two piece's... :o

                   

Chinese maybe?

Quote from: Walt_M. on June 09, 2008, 10:56:13 AM
Chinese maybe?

...Its possible. There are no marking's to indicate >:( I hate cheep off shore shite. It costs you twice as much in the long run ::)

(I'm proud to say the American outfit that I work for sells predominately North American product's... 8)...NO cheep crap!!!)

                 

 :) Tonight I took all the plastic covers, etc, down to the laundry room and gave everything a good wash in hot, soapy water in the laundry tub. Once dried, I polished, bagged and tagged 'em all, ready for installation :D :D :D :D ;)

I've also made and installed a new set of negative and positive wire's...A black battery to ground and a red starter solenoid to starter motor... 8)

                 

Say what ever happened to the Fat Lady? I have just found your thread and am curious about the progress.  Did you finish it or just take a summer break?

Quote from: xswheels on August 04, 2008, 09:17:17 PM
Say what ever happened to the Fat Lady? I have just found your thread and am curious about the progress.  Did you finish it or just take a summer break?

:) I took a wee break from her to do the "Honey do" lists :o ::) ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D She will be ready for a new home in a week or so...If I get my a$$ into gear  ;D :D :D :D :D... ;)

                 

 :) Well, I managed to get my fat a$$ into the garage today to do some work on "The Fat Lady"... :o ;)

I pulled the left side engine cover to get at and remove the flywheel...To do the starter clutch "fix" and tighten the 46mm shaft nut.

Two of the three soc' head cap screws, that hold in the starter clutch were very easy to remove. The third was tight.

The 46mm shaft nut was fractionally loose, like......screw off by hand, no wrench needed :o

Once everything was removed and striped down I threw it all into the parts washer for a good clean up. Once washed and dried, all the parts were inspected for ware/damage. Everything turned out good.

The bolts for the starter clutch were installed using red  thread locker and the thread ends peened in a triangle pettern. The 46mm nut was torqued down and the lock tabs bent over.

All went back together quite smoothly. I made a new side cover gasket using an OEM one as a template. Gearshift lever, footpeg and side stand were all washed off and reinstalled. New oil filter installed and fresh oil put in. (The oil that I dropped out of her was like water and the filter was shot).

Ignition on, choke on, a couple of twists of the "go faster" mechanism, hit the starter and up she fired...and no noisy ringydingy!!! ::) ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Another job off of the "To Do" list... 8)

                 

So, the "Fat Lady" is finally warming up her pipes!  Nice job, Tiger.   8)

H₂O

Quote from: Tiger on August 09, 2008, 05:10:08 PM...and the thread ends peened in a triangle pettern.

What be this triangle pattern you mention?  I haven't read this part before I don't believe.  Do you peen each one on a different outside, erm, side so all three points would form a triangle, or three points on each bolt?  I'll hopefully have my starter rebuild kit next week then I'll be able to jump into this. :) I was going to this week, then I remembered that having more than one thing in pieces at a time is bad mojo for me. :(

Quote from: Aelwulf on August 10, 2008, 12:06:16 AM

Quote from: Tiger on August 09, 2008, 05:10:08 PM...and the thread ends peened in a triangle pettern.

What be this triangle pattern you mention? 

:) Were the threaded end of the bolt peeks through, I peen it with a punch three times on each one...in a triangular pattern  .   .
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:)...and "The Fat Lady" sing's H... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

                             

 :) The "Fat Lady" up-date... 8)

Work completed:


Vetter "Sting" fairing.
Front S.S. Braided brake line.
Front brake caliper has been striped, cleaned, rebuilt and installed.
Brake master cylinder has been flushed, cleaned out and a new "Sight" glass installed.
Brakes fluid replaced and brakes bled off.
Removed the rear wheel and service the rear brakes.
Replaced the rear brake arm stabiliser bolts.
New Steering head taper bearings.
Front forks have been removed, striped, cleaned and rebuilt using new seals and 15 wt oil.
New hand grips.
New battery.
New 6ga Positive (to starter) & Negative (to Battery) leads.
New spark plugs/leads/caps.
New headlight/stop & tail/license plate and signal bulbs.
Replaced the T.C.I. unit (blown).
Replaced the R/R, (showing plus of 16.5 volts prior to replacement!!) and moved it to the outside of the bike.
Replaced the O.E.M. fuse box/glass fuses, with new, in-line blade fuse holders and fuses.
Replaced the glass fuse holder/fuse in the headlight for a new in-line unit and fuse.
New engine oil (Castrol) and oil filter.
New final drive oil.

Gas tank removed and flushed.
New gas line and in-line gas filter installed.
Left side engine cover removed. Starter clutch "fix" done as well as 46 mm nut torqued up and lock       tabs engaged, balancer nut torque checked and lock tabs engaged. Engine cover reinstalled using a new gasket.
Changed the rear wheel/tire assembly. (I had a complete spare ready to go on, with a 110 x 90 x 18).

Replaced various nuts, bolts, washers, screws, etc with new fasteners.


Over all, she is in good condition but has been sitting for a year and really needs to be ridden to give her a good clean out!!! There are a few scratches/dings as you would expect, but the paint work appears to be original. The seat is perfect, the gauge cluster is working fine, mufflers are solid and the tires are in good serviceable condition...

The sale will include a new fitted dust cover, a new float charger and clear title. 

She is ready for safety and the selling price is... $1,150.00 Firm.
                 

Ride 'er hard & put 'er away wet!   ;)

H₂O

:) Well, as of three o'clock ('ish) today, Wolf and his "Flyin' Banana" have a new riding partnership... 8)  Gord, (a.k.a. xswheels) from Sarnia made the three hour journey with his buddy Steve to check out and purchase #8 "The Fat Lady". This is Gords first Vision...but not his first bike. He certainly knows his way around motorcycles.

"The Mistress" now has, for the first time in a long time, the garage all to herself!!! Kinda weird though... ;)

So, welcome to the OnROV family Gord. We look forward to having you join us for the 2009 spring ride... 8)

Now where oh where is #9... :o  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)