Riders Of Vision

General => General Board => Topic started by: The Prophet of Doom on November 23, 2008, 12:24:18 AM

Title: Colour scheme
Post by: The Prophet of Doom on November 23, 2008, 12:24:18 AM
I'm about to send my bike into the panel shop for painting.  Price wise this is totally over the top and definately a one time deal.  I'll be stuck with it for a long time so I've been playing around in photoshoppe to try and settle on a colour that suits both me and the bike.  My thoughts have wavered a fair bit, but settling on Arctic white (with a silver metallick fleck) and matt black mudguards and rad cover.  Any comments?

(http://rsimonnz.googlepages.com/xz550-whitepaint5.jpg)
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: Night Vision on November 23, 2008, 01:10:00 AM
I've always wondered how a copper colored V would look...

got photoshop?
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: iain on November 23, 2008, 01:44:31 AM
Why don't you paint the radiator cover the same colour as the rest of the bike to keep it matching ?

Iain
NZ
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: The Prophet of Doom on November 23, 2008, 02:59:55 AM
Quote from: Night Vision on November 23, 2008, 01:10:00 AM
I've always wondered how a copper colored V would look...
Actually, it doesn't look too bad as a cop bike.  We are just starting to get cops back on bikes here.  Big BMW's that look like they would have trouble catching a cold, let alone a road racer

(http://rsimonnz.googlepages.com/xz550-whitepaint6.jpg)

Durr, you meant the colour copper, not the policeman sort.  Going to white is easy, other colours less so.  I had a shot at copper, but it ended up a disgusting mess.  I don't have the technique for metallics.  I'll ask the graphic artist at work to see if he can do any better
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: The Prophet of Doom on November 23, 2008, 03:07:43 AM
Quote from: iain on November 23, 2008, 01:44:31 AM
Why don't you paint the radiator cover the same colour as the rest of the bike to keep it matching ?
Matching coloured radiators are way cool, but a bit too daring a look for me, I don't want to attract too much attention from the wrong sort of people.
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: zore on November 23, 2008, 12:50:44 PM
Remember your stick with what ever you pick.

Kind of a copper color
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1182/1424059930_3cfe256ee8.jpg)

Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: The Prophet of Doom on January 04, 2009, 07:15:13 AM
I got a quote back from the panelbeater.  $1,200 to paint the bike in white, no clear.  $1,800 to do a metallic/clear.  I rang round a couple of others and got similar estimates.  We don't have an illegal workforce here prepared to do stuff at $2.50/hr so I guess that's the price you pay for living in a civilised and just society

Obviously this is an outrageous amount to spend on a bike worth $2,000 so it's on to plan B where I spend my entire annual vacation doing it myself using rattle cans (with a lot of help from Iain who also fixed my fibreglass 8)).

So far I've spent a very long week sanding, priming and chipping off the decals.  Starting on the colour tomorrow.

Does anyone know where I can get a decal set?


Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: Aelwulf on January 04, 2009, 08:06:19 AM
Yer coat's kinda a brownish color...

Sorry, tangent. :D

Lookin' at doing my '82 in a desert tan here.  Not sure if I'm going to try to spraycan it or get some decent paint done yet.
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: Jay on January 04, 2009, 03:09:18 PM
Personally I don't think of it like "1800 is a lot to spend on a 2000 bike." I prefer to think of it as "if i spend $1800 on my bike it will look great. The alternative is to get another bike looking that good, which could easily cost $4000+. And this way it's done right, to my specs, and looks how I want it to look." If it's down to paint it or buy another bike, I'd say paint it. If it's more so that you like it and can ride without shame, but would like to pretty it up a bit, maybe look at alternative options for paint, such as parts removal, and spray it yourself, would be much cheaper. Even if you spent $200 on paint, $100 on a gun, and $100 on a compressor, assuming you have no parts already, that's $400 into it to spray, you can spray a dozen times to get it as you like, and you have the experience for the future. At least that's the way I'm going. Though I already have the gun and compressor.
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: Tiger on January 04, 2009, 05:14:07 PM
Quote from: roro on January 04, 2009, 07:15:13 AM
...Obviously this is an outrageous amount to spend on a bike worth $2,000

:) I know that with the purchase price of the Vision, getting her road worthy and all the up-grades, including a custom pearl paint job that I have had done since getting her in 2005, "The Mistress" stands me around $4,500.00...infact, due to the reversal of fortune that she has just had in falling off of my trailer, she is going to empty my pocket book a lot more before spring arrives...and I don't regret one wee penny.

This has all been done for my pleasure...a labour of love really...and not for resale 8)

                   
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: The Prophet of Doom on January 05, 2009, 03:01:25 AM
I put the colour coat on today. No huge disasters except a bad sunburn and a sore trigger finger.
Now I have to leave it to harden and resist the temptation to wet sand it for a couple of days
Even without the sanding and polishing the white paint gleams - it's a bit hard to look at in direct sun.

So far it's cost about $300 and 60 hours labour.

(http://rsimonnz.googlepages.com/PaintDrying.JPG)


Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: kev10104 on January 05, 2009, 09:47:12 AM
That paint job looks awesome.
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: zore on January 05, 2009, 10:46:20 AM
Quote from: Jay on January 04, 2009, 03:09:18 PM
Personally I don't think of it like "1800 is a lot to spend on a 2000 bike." I prefer to think of it as "if i spend $1800 on my bike it will look great. The alternative is to get another bike looking that good, which could easily cost $4000+. And this way it's done right, to my specs, and looks how I want it to look." If it's down to paint it or buy another bike, I'd say paint it. If it's more so that you like it and can ride without shame, but would like to pretty it up a bit, maybe look at alternative options for paint, such as parts removal, and spray it yourself, would be much cheaper. Even if you spent $200 on paint, $100 on a gun, and $100 on a compressor, assuming you have no parts already, that's $400 into it to spray, you can spray a dozen times to get it as you like, and you have the experience for the future. At least that's the way I'm going. Though I already have the gun and compressor.

You can buy a 2003 sv650 for 3800.  I've been where you're at.  I've repainted my monster 3 times until I finally had someone do it.  I've used rattle cans and it came out fantastic but didn't last more than 2 weeks.  I have the spray guns and compressor, but unless you paint often enough to get good at it, you're making yourself an expensive mess.  I'd really have to have a personal attachment to something for me to put that kind of money into an 1800 dollar bike.
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: The Prophet of Doom on January 11, 2009, 12:20:24 AM
So there we have it, I still have a couple of things to do to it, but it's essentially together and road worthy
The rattle paint is not as tough as I would like.  Already I have some paint missing from a drop of petrol (gasoline).  It's only a couple of weeks old, so will see how it hardens up.  If it doesn't work I'll have to see about getting some two-pot clear blown over it.

(http://rsimonnz.googlepages.com/xz550-white-nearly-complete.JPG)
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: vadasz1 on January 11, 2009, 12:38:50 AM
Nice job roro.  Personally I would have painted the whole side cover white and have only the seat remain black for contrast.  Also with that BIG luggage rack I would have eliminated the rear grab bars aswell.  I will post pics in my thread for my painting experienc later this month probably.  Now I'm off to bed to see if the ringing in my ears will go away some more.
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: Tiger on January 11, 2009, 08:21:19 AM
 :) I like the Vision in White...it looks clean looking 8)

Sadly rattle can paint doesn't stand up to gas/petrol... :(

A couple of comments, if I may...Remove the windshield, using a fine sandpaper, very lightly sand the underside of the windshield, clean off and paint Matt black, two or three light coats will do it...Its what I did with mine...looks good and helps keep the sun off of the gauges 8)

The left and right aluminum plates for the footrests...remove, strip the clear coat and paint them black. Once dry, lay on a white pin stripe (from your local auto store) into the three "grooves"...Voila!!!

Overall, I think you have done a nice job mate... 8)

                     
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: JDArgonaut on January 15, 2009, 06:23:44 PM
That is one sweet looking ride! I was doing some research on re-painting my car and came across the duplicolor spray cans. I know a fella that had really good results with it. I am planning on doing my car when it gets warmer, probably in March before the annual pollen attack.
I was planning on redoing my windshield on my vision, but using the stuff you can buy from wal-mart for about $20 called CVS I think. It is for those plastic headlight covers on cars. That worked really well on my wifes Caravan.
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: Rick G on January 16, 2009, 02:51:43 AM
I recommend you buy one can of Duplicolor and paint a a dog food can . Let it set up fro a few days and  then spray a little gas on it .  I learned the hard way!
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: JDArgonaut on January 16, 2009, 08:04:28 PM
Thanks Rick, I think I will take your word for it!
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: The Prophet of Doom on January 16, 2009, 08:19:26 PM
Quote from: Rick G on January 16, 2009, 02:51:43 AM
I recommend you buy one can of Duplicolor and paint a a dog food can . Let it set up fro a few days and  then spray a little gas on it .  I learned the hard way!
As did I; a single drop from the tank and the paint just disappeared in a long run.  So now the tank needs to be re-done.
It was automotive paint laquer I used, so I didn't expect it to be quite this bad.   According to the paint shop guy, the spray can clear is no more resistant either, and the only way to go is the two pack paints and/or clears. 
I think I'll buy one of those preval sprayers and some professional clear when I re-do the tank, and blow a coat over the whole bike.  Will this thing never be finished???
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: X-Vision on January 16, 2009, 09:33:16 PM
NO, NEVER!
Title: Re: Colour scheme
Post by: GT @ oh. on January 17, 2009, 07:52:24 PM
If you go to a place that sells auto paint they can probably make you up a spray can that will be gas proof atleast the one here said they could or get a shop to clear the tank only