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General => Off Topic => Topic started by: Lucky on November 11, 2007, 09:49:42 AM

Title: all-in-one printers
Post by: Lucky on November 11, 2007, 09:49:42 AM
my MFP printer died, i go thru these things like H2O goes thru stators...

I prefer an MPF, all in one print/scan/copy/fax with network connectivity.

what are your reccomendations good & bad?
any POSITIVE warrenty service experiences?

i've gone thru a Brother, Lexmark & now an HP (which i REALLY liked...sigh)

i'd like to keep it under $350-$300...Tops

--Lucky
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: YellowJacket! on November 11, 2007, 09:52:38 AM
I despise all in ones.  One thing breaks, all things break and you are out a bunch of money.  They always go through ink much faster too.
I have had very good luck with epson printers.

David
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Lucky on November 11, 2007, 09:53:55 AM
oh yeah, i forgot about the Epson laser i had, it was great, but i want color & that's so far behind in price.....
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Rick G on November 11, 2007, 06:49:55 PM
My first non dot printer was a black and white Cannon , it lasted from 1995 to 2003, it was still working fine , but I wanted colour. I bought a Lexmark , a singular piece of crap, it lasted until 2004. I then bought a used (from a thrift store ,10.00) Hp 694c desk jet . Its a trifle noisy but is a real work horse. The  all in ones are too expensive for me , and like Dave said, when one feature craps out , you have nothing!
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: YellowJacket! on November 11, 2007, 07:39:53 PM
Lucky, I don't have epson lasers.  Mine are inkjets.  I get my ink cartridges from abcink.com for about 3.00 each too.

David
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: YellowJacket! on November 11, 2007, 07:45:35 PM
If you absolutely need an AIO, I saw this on bensbargains.net today. Its a canon and while bens site says its $50.00, the office max add says its $99.00.

http://www.officemax.com/omax/catalog/sku.jsp?skuId=21233933&cm_ven=Performics&cm_cat=Ben's%20Bargain%20Center&cm_pla=Rubberband%20Logo%20120x60&cm_ite=Rubberband%20Logo%20120x60&BV_UseBVCookie=no&affcode=performics&siteID=k9470&mid=

David
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Night Vision on November 11, 2007, 08:32:10 PM
I like all in ones..... otherwise I'd need a separate printer, scanner, copier (I don't use the faxxer)....

Yah, they use ink.... but at least you don't have to buy ink for a printer AND a copier.... mine even downloads photos from the camera card... ask me how I know  ;)

it's one of those Dell AIO that come as a $99 option package deal... not so bad, and I've only had to change the stator once so far!  :D
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: YellowJacket! on November 11, 2007, 08:42:23 PM
Gremlins are known to breed in AIO's faster than in a garage with two or more Visions.  :o

David
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Sable on November 12, 2007, 07:34:33 AM
Lucky,

    I have had great luck with my Lexmark X7350... but it is pretty old now and probably obsolete. If I had to replace it, I would get another Lexmark, I just saw one that had built-in WiFi and this would be the best option for me! Just my $ .02.


~John
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Tanno on November 12, 2007, 07:43:13 AM
I have a Canon MP830 that I have had for about 1 year now. Absolutely no issues with. It's Copy/Fax/Scan/Printer/Memory Card. Almost an all-in-one. It doesn't make my coffee.   ::)
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Tanno on November 12, 2007, 07:55:16 AM
www.officedepot.com = Canon Pixmaâ,,¢ MP830 Color All-In-One (Item # 471602) $249.99. There's also a $30 rebate until 12/31/07.

www.newegg.com = $219.99 w/ free 3-day shipping.


   
 
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: kwells on November 12, 2007, 01:40:22 PM
hmmm I was reading something about the new Kodak printers that use less ink than all the other ink gobblers.  Will try to pull up some more detailed info and post it.
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: ColinthePilot on November 13, 2007, 12:41:55 PM
I have an HPSC 1350 All in one. I've had it for 5 years and 3 moves and it still works like a champ. I even let my roommate in college photocopy a few hundred pages on it in exchange for full ink cartridges when he finished with the project. Still rollin. For the personal use I use it for, printing/copying about 10 pages a week, its great. It also has 4 slots for various media cards so no cables for my digital camera.
I also notice my printers last about twice as long as my parents' stuff. Same with my computer. I think limited users (i.e. one) can greatly extend the life of these things.
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: kwells on November 13, 2007, 01:22:45 PM
I have an HP PhotoSmart 7760 which prints pretty good...had an issue with an ink cartridge malfunction.  Will also do pretty good pics when done on the photo paper.  The problem is it DOES use alot of ink.  That is why I was interested in the new line out by Kodak.
They claim it uses 50% less ink as other inkjet printers, as well as, cheaper ink cartridges when they do need to be replaced.  This is a huge plus for me since it seems as though the consumables(ink) is really all that most companies are interested in selling. 
Here's a link for the entry level description:
http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=9/1441/10580/10590&pq-locale=en_US
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Aelwulf on November 13, 2007, 01:43:01 PM
The cost savings would make it worth tryin', not far off the cost of a regular printer and the cartridges are definitely less.
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: h2olawyer on November 13, 2007, 01:43:25 PM
I'm relatively easy on printers.  Don't have a multi-function.  Current printer is an old HP962.  Uses a fair amount of ink & is slow, but never fails.  (knocking on wood)  I got this printer several years ago when I went out for ink cartridges for a Canon I had.  The printer with ink carts was cheaper than the Canon ink!  Plus, it was a better performing printer.  Couldn't pass it up.  Besides, with the same side paper feed, it takes up less room on the computer desk than any of my old Canons did.

My printer gets spotty use.  It will sit for weeks, then get called on to do lots of work in a day or two.

I wish I could find a new scanner for cheap.  I like flatbed scanners, but require one that handles 8.5 x 14 inch paper for legal documents.  As cheap as some of the all in one printers are, stand alone scanners seem to start at the price of good all in one printers & go up from there.  Guess the manufacturers sell the printers at very low prices & make the $$ on proprietary ink cartridges.   ::)

I've never had to retire a printer for a breakdown - always done it for perforance gain or simple economics.

H2O
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Tanno on November 13, 2007, 04:51:49 PM
I have an IBM Selectric that's never failed me.  ;D
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: h2olawyer on November 13, 2007, 05:38:19 PM
For my college papers, I used a 1930s LC Smith fully manual typewriter.  The platen was so hard by then that the "O"s and other letters or numbers with a fully enclosed part would punch holes in the paper.  That thing sure developed strong fingers!  Gotta love those old, heavy machines.  Kind of miss using it.  Still sits on a typing table with the original cover.  I had a Smith Corona electric as well, but it hummed so loud I'd lose my train of thought.

Finally went computerized in about 1988, after word processors became very user friendly.  Had an Atari 800XL before that (1983?), but the Gorilla Banana printer I had was terrible.  The tails on the "g", "j" and anything that was supposed to go below the line didn't.  Professors wouldn't accept papers printed on it.  With the computer, I also got a Panasonic KXP-1124.  Now, that was an awesome dot matrix printer!  May be a dinosaur today, but in it's time, it rocked.

H2O

Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: YellowJacket! on November 13, 2007, 06:21:06 PM
The sad thing is that if you look back at "old technology", it actually outlasts the new stuff.  Some of my first printers were tanks.  You could beat the crud out of them, work them to death and they would still ask for more.  I still have an old epson dot matrix that would gladly print out a crate of form feed and beg for more.  I just got started writing a research paper for my leadership class and did an online search for journals.  I had to print out about 200 journal articles and ran out of ink.  I just replaced mu black tank last week!  On top of that, my printer is making a horrible screeching noise as the print carriage moves back and forth.  Its only a freaken year old and cost about $300.00!

David
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: pullshocks on November 14, 2007, 01:25:35 AM
We bit the bullet and bought a HP 1020 laser printer for routine printing and just use the ink jet printer/scanner (also HP) for pictures and documents where appearance is critical.

Costco.com has a samsung color laser mfd for $520, more than you were looking to spend, but might pay for itself.  Or not, as some of the laser printers require new fusers every other cartridge.
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Walt_M. on November 14, 2007, 05:13:21 AM
PC magazine rates Canon as best. Can't go by what I currently have, my 5 yr old HP2110 just died but it was the best printer I ever had while it lasted. I am using a Dell for work, just a year old and it does what I need but print quality is so-so.
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: kiawrench on November 15, 2007, 07:08:19 AM
i bought a Canon ImageClass MF3110 All-In-One Printer about 3 months ago. does everything i need, a little bit more, but ,like the others it wont get my coffee or shine my shoes, (close ,but the polish gets all over)

i use the printer as full slave for 4 computers, (4 desk and my laptop ) and hope to add in the one my exchange student is buying too. this should work ok, as we dont use all of them at once .
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Tiger on November 15, 2007, 08:10:29 AM
 :) My computer is hooked up to: 1 x Brother 420CN, copier/fax/printer/scanner/photo capture and 1 x Canon i470D, straight printer. Good service from both, but like all ink base printer's, they can be thirsty :P

                   
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Lucky on November 15, 2007, 09:02:53 AM
my old one is an HP 6110xi all in one, network ready, will flatbed scan as well as sheet feed scan/copy, print & fax.

Iti's generally an excellent machine, i really like it, the problem is that the scan head doesn't recognise it's parking position & will continually click (kinda grinding gears) fo about 2 min. then give a scan head error & shut down..

i've tried everything on all the forums: cleaning the glass, cleaning the mirrors, (it recognises park from a white strip on the glass), hard reset, soft reset, etc.  it worked for a while, but no more.  HP is of no help.  it's unfortunatly a common problem with these printers, but the orphaned it..

When i can afford it, i'm leaning towards another HP same style, but will probably opt for an extended warrenty.  i don't usually do that, but with these printers there is only so much you can do when you can't buy parts..

--Lucky
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Aelwulf on November 15, 2007, 12:04:38 PM
I just remembered my ex-before-last never gave me back the scanner I loaned her. :P Guess might be another reason to give one a shot.
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: 67GTO on November 15, 2007, 05:57:40 PM
The white strip is to set up white reference thats why when you turn it on, the lamp lights for a moment.

Make sure the scanner rails are clean, use alcohol. Then use a very light synthetic oil on the rails.

There should be a home position sensor that can be cleaned as well.
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Night Vision on November 15, 2007, 08:27:34 PM
some HP plotters have a well, that before the printheads start their printing, collects a quick squirt of ink.  a sensor checks to "see" if the ink squirted past...this may not apply to an HP Scamper and the scanning process... but it might have something to do with an AIO's initialization.... I just thought I'd throw that out there because it really sucked having to clean the well with a half dozen wadded up coffee filters and would like to share that experience with someone else.  :P
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Lucky on November 15, 2007, 10:30:16 PM
Quote from: 67GTO on November 15, 2007, 05:57:40 PM
The white strip is to set up white reference thats why when you turn it on, the lamp lights for a moment.

Make sure the scanner rails are clean, use alcohol. Then use a very light synthetic oil on the rails.

There should be a home position sensor that can be cleaned as well.

on one of the fix it forums they were discussing this problem with my model, one poster who claimed to work for HP said the white strip was part of the park sensor (& it's located in the right spot for that)  there is no other park sensor, i've had the scan carrige out & examined it very closely, no doubt there...  :(

the rails were cleaned & lubed..

i'm probably going to try it several more times because i can't afford to buy another one, & a used 'pparts' one is likely to have the same problem. it seems to be all that dies on this model...
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: 67GTO on November 15, 2007, 10:49:51 PM
Home position sensor could be a photointerruptor type, easy to clean.

The white reference strip should be clean. If the scanner does not stop at the right spot it will cause an error.

You might be able to slide the rail out of the machine, making it easer to clean and lub the bushings.
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Lucky on November 15, 2007, 11:25:52 PM
there is a rod (rail) on one side of the scan carrige, along with the motor & belt, the other side rides on a nylon roller everything that could be cleaned has been carefully cleaned & blown dust free..., but i'll try it again.....
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: h2olawyer on November 15, 2007, 11:26:58 PM
Maybe cleaning it out is like dipping Vision carbs!   ;D

H2O
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: Tanno on November 16, 2007, 09:42:17 AM
Take it all apart....EVERYTHING, and dip them overnight in a clean lint-free bucket-o-air. Re-assemble them the next day and yer done!  ::)
Title: Re: all-in-one printers
Post by: YellowJacket! on November 18, 2007, 08:54:12 PM
Heres a good one for only $100.00 and its an Epson too. ;D

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=347019&cm_ven=Performics&cm_cat=Ben's%20Bargain%20Center&cm_pla=General&cm_ite=Primary&ref=performics

David