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Title: #18...She's alive again!!!...
Post by: Tiger on December 08, 2009, 05:20:20 PM
 :) #17 is under canvass in the back yard for the moment ( #14-#16 and "The Mistress are in my garage, #15 is with kev10104!!!) and #18 has just arrived at my door today!!!
She belongs to Mike, a new member to the ROV/OnROV and although in not to bad a condition...she has been standing for some time and needs "Tigerized"...LOL
General "stuff" has to be sorted...Carbs need cleaning, tires need changing, new battery to replace the empty space!! leaking fork seal, brakes not working, oem fuse box needs replacing, etc, etc...

Looks like I'm in for a buuuuuuuusy winter period... ::)

                   
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: #18 has arrived!!!
Post by: sunburnedaz on December 08, 2009, 06:22:50 PM
Pics?

Gonna fix the starter clutch bolts and all that too?
Title: Re: #18 has arrived!!!
Post by: Tiger on December 08, 2009, 09:17:53 PM
Quote from: sunburnedaz on December 08, 2009, 06:22:50 PM
Pics?

Gonna fix the starter clutch bolts and all that too?

:) Pics...there coming.

...and the "Gonna fix the starter clutch bolts and all that too?"...comes under Etc, etc.... ;)

               
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: #18 has arrived!!!
Post by: akvision on December 08, 2009, 09:31:32 PM
What about a little history on how you find these units?
Title: Re: #18 has arrived!!!
Post by: Rick G on December 09, 2009, 12:12:01 AM
Certain large metropolitan areas had relatively large sales of Visions. it seems that the Toronto metro area is one of those. The Twin Cities in MN are another and to a lesser extent , Portland OR.  Probably LA too.
Title: Re: #18 has arrived!!!
Post by: Tiger on December 09, 2009, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: akvision on December 08, 2009, 09:31:32 PM
What about a little history on how you find these units?

:) Over the last year or so, I have advertised on some of the free web sites...Graig's List, kijiji, etc...here in the province of Ontario for Visions/Vision parts. Leads also come in from other OnROV/non-OnROV members about Visions/Vision parts that are available. One of my Visions, an '83, came out of a frequently visited wreckers yard...another good source.

A couple of rebuilds have come to me via their owners, new or old, looking for help to get their Visions back on the road...as is the case with #18...and new owners needing help to fix problems with their "new" rides...kev10104, Raj, etc.

Funny enough, I can only think of one that came out of Toronto...the rest have been scattered around a bit.

                   
8).......TIGER....... 8)  

PS The province of Ontario is larger than England!!
Title: Re: #18 has arrived!!!
Post by: Tiffanator on December 09, 2009, 03:22:44 PM
Tiger... fancy a roadtrip to the warm and toasty south? My Vision needs some Tigerization.  ;D
Title: Re: #18 has arrived!!!
Post by: Tiger on December 09, 2009, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: Tiffanator on December 09, 2009, 03:22:44 PM
Tiger... fancy a roadtrip to the warm and toasty south? My Vision needs some Tigerization.  ;D

8) Ahhhhhhh sunshine, my skins turns opaque in winter :o. I'll be glad to come to the aid of a damsel in distress...just need a plane ticket + bed and breakfast!!!  ;D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

                 
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: #18 has arrived!!!
Post by: Tiffanator on December 09, 2009, 09:23:13 PM
Bed and breakfast I can take care of. You like banana buttermilk pancakes and sausage links? May have to get creative with the plane ticket... how about hopping in a box and hiding in the back of a UPS truck?  :D
Title: Re: #18 has arrived!!!
Post by: Tiger on December 09, 2009, 09:31:27 PM
Quote from: Tiffanator on December 09, 2009, 09:23:13 PM
Bed and breakfast I can take care of. You like banana buttermilk pancakes and sausage links? May have to get creative with the plane ticket... how about hopping in a box and hiding in the back of a UPS truck?  :D

:)Mmmmmmmmmmmmm, sure, who doesn't 8)

I don't mind the jack in the box bit ;) ...but I hate U P S, they cant deliver squat right >:(  I'd end up in God knows were :D :D :D :D :D :D

               
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: #18 has arrived!!!
Post by: YellowJacket! on December 10, 2009, 09:14:06 PM
So, when you hit # 20 - which, at the rate you are going should be sometime around February - we will proclaim you "Grand Master Visionary Restorer".

:-)

Good Job Tiger....geep the flame burning.

David
Title: Re: #18 has arrived!!!
Post by: funkamongus on December 13, 2009, 12:49:27 AM
18!!! Right on Tiger!!
Title: Re: #18 has arrived!!!
Post by: kev10104 on December 14, 2009, 09:37:40 AM
I knew there would be a reply about ups.And you are absolutely correct about them too.
Title: Re: #18 has arrived!!!
Post by: Tiger on December 22, 2009, 03:30:03 PM
 :) I've got a wee start on #18, Mikes Vision... 8)

Removed the oem fuse box and replaced it with new, modern style, in-line ATO fuse holders/fuses.

Replaced the main positive cable (to the starter motor) and the negative (battery to ground) cable with new custom made cables.
     
The R/R now resides on a newly made bracket which is fastened on to the rear lower fender, just above and forward of the left rear foot peg. The oem plugs were removed and three new lengths of white wire grafted in and finished with heat shrink.

Bobbed the rear fender...this gets rid of the big licence plate light/holder and the chunk of steel reinforcing under the fender. Lightens the load a wee bit and looks a lot better.

Removed the two rear signal indicators and then removed from them, the long rubber stalks. Short stalks replaced the long ones and the indicators have been reinstalled. This gives the rear end (along with the bobbed fender) a more modern look.

The front/rear foot pegs have been removed along with the rear brake lever, gear changer and the big aluminum plates. These will all get repainted/polished before being refitted to the "V".

The gas tank and air box have been removed...along with the side plastics and battery box...and put away in the garage loft for now.

8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: #18...updates...
Post by: Tiger on December 23, 2009, 07:02:26 AM
 :) It looks like this little lady has gone down on the right side at some point...prob' fell over on that side as there are no drag marks. However, there is a chunk of plastic missing from the rad' cowl, the rear signal indicator body is damaged and the front signal indicator lens is fractured.

These have now all been replaced...and the old parts have gone in to the recycle bin... 8)

                 
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: #18...updates...
Post by: Tiger on December 23, 2009, 06:23:57 PM
 :) I decided to remove the back wheel and service the rear brake workings... :o...the actuator shaft in the back plate was solid!!! Once the actuator arm was removed I had to drive out the shaft with a drift and a 3lb hammer :o ::)  The rear axle had to be driven out most of the way also!!! Just one of the problems when these old girls are left laying around and neglected, eh.
     
Everything went in to the parts washer for a soak, before scrubbing the crap off them. A wee bit of work with the wire wheel, wiped all the parts off and lubed the required bits and ....VOILA...working brakes once again. Well, they will be, when I get the rear wheel back on...and that won't be until I receive the new tires, that this lady needs, from Mike.
The rear brake shoes looked fairly new. These were washed off with brake and parts cleaner, dried off and the glazing removed from the shoe surface with some coarse emery cloth prior to rebuilding.

The rear brake stabilizer bar, adjuster arm/spring/nut and brake pedal shaft went in to the parts washer bath before being gone over with the wire wheel. These will get a coat of zinc paint before going back on the Vision. The shaft will get a good smear of anti-seize ;)

Still a long way to go before this Vision is road ready...and a long winter period ahead, oh well  ::) :D :D :D :D :D.... ;)

8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: #18...updates...
Post by: Tiger on December 26, 2009, 02:34:10 PM
 :) The steering still has the oem ball bearings, however, they are done...there is a definite indent in there. Sooooo, without further delay...I stripped out the complete front end.

The front forks need new seals/oil in them. The brake caliper is seized and one of the master cylinder cover screws is snapped off waaaaaaaay down in there...

I had a spare set of  forks already overhauled, so that's a done deal... 8)

A spare upper triple tree and '82 handle bar risers were bead blasted a while back and repainted gloss black, so I cleaned up and fitted the idiot lights and ignition switch to the upper triple tree... 8)

The bearing race's were removed from the frame tube as well as the one on the lower triple tree shaft. The lower triple tree was dropped in to the parts washer along with other bits and pieces to get a complete scrub and rinse off.

The rear footpegs were removed from there holders and after cleaning the chrome finish up, the pegs were reinstalled using new universal clevis/cotter pins. The pins in the front pegs were drilled out and using new universal clevis/cotter pins, the front pegs were refitted in to another set of holders which had been bead blasted and repainted gloss black. 

The new taper head bearings are on order, which means that I'll have to wait until delivery before I can refit the front end on... ::)

             
8)........TIGER........ 8)
Title: Re: #18...updates...
Post by: Tiger on January 06, 2010, 06:20:39 PM
 :) This girl is sitting on her centre stand and a jack for balance since the wheels were removed... ::)

The swing arm/drive has been cleaned down and repainted with Aluminum paint. The open drive gear area has been washed down and using cotton buds, the gearing completely cleaned of all the crud and grease that was in there...as has the gearing on the rear wheel... both have been re greased...8) The rear brake bar and adjuster rod have been stripped and repainted. Once I get the new tires and fit them to the rims, I can put all the rear end back together... 8)

At the front end...I removed the complete front brake system. One of the master cylinder cover screws was snapped, as was the ball end of the lever...so I've replaced them with a serviced unit which has the brake fluid level "frosted" plastic viewer replaced with a new clear glass one.

The lower triple tree has been repainted black, as has the headlight bracket, master cylinder cover and some other odds and ends... 8)

I have the caliper to do yet...Still awaiting the steering head taper bearings and front tire...Once I have these, the front end can all go back together...However, there is no hurry...we will have winter for a few more months yet !!!!  

                         
8).......TIGER....... 8)  
Title: Re: #18...updates...
Post by: funkamongus on January 06, 2010, 07:25:25 PM
ah yes, swing arm paint.. What, exactly, do you use for that??
Title: Re: #18...updates...
Post by: Tiger on January 06, 2010, 09:12:18 PM
Quote from: funkamongus on January 06, 2010, 07:25:25 PM
ah yes, swing arm paint.. What, exactly, do you use for that??

:) A spay bomb of industrial Aluminum lacquer paint that I had in my cabinet... ;)
Title: Re: #18...updates...
Post by: Tiger on January 07, 2010, 05:08:19 PM
 :) I stripped out the front brake caliper today, washed all the parts down in brake and parts cleaner. Everything is now nice and clean and ready to rebuild...after a quick repaint ;)
Title: Re: #18...updates...
Post by: Tiger on January 12, 2010, 08:43:00 AM
Quote from: Tiger on January 07, 2010, 05:08:19 PM
:) I stripped out the front brake caliper today, washed all the parts down in brake and parts cleaner. Everything is now nice and clean and ready to rebuild...after a quick repaint ;)

:) The front brake caliper is cleaned, painted, serviced and rebuilt and ready to go back on...when I get the tapered head bearings.

New spark plugs/wires/caps are on the bench and ready for install...

We progress slow but sure... ;)

                       
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: #18...updates...
Post by: Tiger on January 24, 2010, 07:37:58 PM
 :) Plug wires/caps and plugs are now installed along with the heat shield...which was a missing item when this Vision came in!!

Now, bare in mind before you read on, this Vision came in as a non-runner, like most do...........

I decided, as I'm waiting for parts delivery, to remove the left side engine cover and check the starter clutch, balancer nut, etc...and here's a first!!!
I eyeballed the starter clutch bolt threads and found one backing out... ::) Ah, no big deal ::) so, I pulled the flywheel from the shaft and as it bounced along the garage floor...yes, flywheels do fly!!!...the starter clutch was sitting on the shaft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...ALL three soc head cap screws had sheared off at some point...NO WONDER THE BUGGER HAD STARTING ISSUES for the previous owner (wanker!!!) ...GO FIGURE, EH!!! The starter clutch and flywheel are FUBAR'd >:( ::) So once again, the flywheel/starter clutch assembly that I have for my spare motor, was installed...bugger!!! New gasket made, side cover reinstalled, new Stainless Steel soc head cap screws replaced the oem ones and new oil and filter installed...enough for today me thinks...time for a scotch ;)

                 
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: #18...updates...
Post by: vadasz1 on January 24, 2010, 07:43:03 PM
Tiger I think it's time we called some local machine shops to see how much a flywheel and clutch parts will cost to be fabbed.
Title: Re: #18...updates...
Post by: Tiger on January 28, 2010, 10:35:48 PM
 :) The taper head bearings arrived today, so, in they went, along with the freshly painted triple trees, the rebuilt front forks, gauge cluster, signal indicators, headlight bucket, speedo cable, nicely painted/serviced brake caliper, S.S. braided brake line, headlight bucket, wire harness in the bucket and all connected up... 8)

I couldn't help but connect up a "pony" tank, filled it with gas, poured a wee bit of gas down the carb throats and after a wee bit of coaxing...VOILA, SHES ALIVE  once again...briefly but alive 8) muhawhawhaw!!!!

                             
8)  .......TIGER ........ 8)
Title: Re: #18...updates...
Post by: funkamongus on January 28, 2010, 11:17:56 PM
YAY!!!
Title: Re: #18...She's alive again!!!...
Post by: kev10104 on January 29, 2010, 03:08:12 PM
You gotta love it!
Title: Re: #18...She's alive again!!!...
Post by: Tiger on February 01, 2010, 05:30:36 AM
Quote from: kev10104 on January 29, 2010, 03:08:12 PM
You gotta love it!

:) Yes you/I do... :D :D :D :D :D... 8)

All the wires in the headlight bucket are connected and all check out fine... 8) Headlight bulb was changed out, to a halogen, before reinstallation, from the big useless OEM one... ;)

                 
8)......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: #18...She's alive again!!!...
Post by: kev10104 on February 01, 2010, 03:09:37 PM
I need a garage buddy.Any volunteers?
Title: Re: #18...She's alive again!!!...
Post by: Tiger on February 01, 2010, 07:06:44 PM
Quote from: kev10104 on February 01, 2010, 03:09:37 PM
I need a garage buddy.Any volunteers?

;)...Call me!!
Title: Re: #18...She's alive again!!!...
Post by: Tiger on March 11, 2010, 04:37:47 PM
 :) Mike came over, last night, to see his Vision and give his nod of approval  :P I'm pleased to say that he is veeeery happy with the "finished article", (mechanically anyhow!!).

Other than a set of tires, which Mike is ordering, this wee girl is ready for safety certification... 8)

She starts right off the button, with no rattles or clanks...in fact, she GROWLS  superbly with the MAC's she wears... :o ;)

That's another winter rebuild coming to an end...and another very happy owner, who will take delivery in a few weeks...(once the weather warms up some and he gets his motorcycle licence!!)... 8)

             
8).......TIGER....... 8)  
Title: Re: #18...She's alive again!!!...
Post by: kev10104 on March 11, 2010, 06:12:09 PM
I'm glad to hear everything worked out.
Title: Re: #18...She's alive again!!!...
Post by: Tiger on May 18, 2010, 10:00:31 PM
 :) #18 is now back with her rightfull owner... 8). I loaded her up on to the trailer earlier today and dropped her off at Mike's place in Georgetown (Ontario!!). He is one happy camper, I'm pleased to say... 8)

               
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: #18...She's alive again!!!...
Post by: Cdnlouie on May 18, 2010, 11:18:11 PM
Great job! Your Vision charges are finding good homes.  Nothing like clear floor space for a while.

From the windy city!