Riders Of Vision

Hi everyone, I'm glad to say that since thursday, I am an offical visonary :D I'm lucky's son, Kenny, and I'm glad to be a part of the ROV forum now. My dad has already made a topic about the new bike, so I'm not going to get into a lot of detail, but I do want to say thanks to Walt m. for bringing the bike up, and staying for dinner, it was cool to meet you. So the bike is going to need some TLC, there are a few things that needs that need to be gone over, but it's in pretty good shape
It will be good to hear from you guys  ;)
-spectre
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Kenny, I personally like the red Visions and I recently got one that appears to be in about the same condition as yours. Noticed that carbs are not presently mounted, do you have a set? You certainly have great potential with the bike and I know we all want to see you enjoying riding it. Keep us informed on your progress.    BDC   

Spectre: Son of Lucky.  It sounds like the title of a horror movie.
Welcome to the forum

haha, I should have known one of you guys would see that  ;) i do have a set, they're just not mounted yet, dad (lucky i guess :P  ) pet them back together, end synced (sp?) them by eye, haven't had a chance to mount them yet, hopefully soon, but there are many more things that have to be done, so we will see.

That sounds scary huh? imagine the fear my dad will have when I FIRST ride my vision XD

Quote from: spectre on August 21, 2010, 11:25:25 PM


That sounds scary huh? imagine the fear my dad will have when I FIRST ride my vision XD

Glad that you are aware of the fear that dad may have, ride sensibly with care and don't give parents any unnecessary reasons to worry about you. Reason I questioned you about carbs was when I bought an 83 in MO the other day I was given an extra 82 carb that he had. Will you be able to ride legally at sixteen?    BDC

Hi Spec, this is a pretty good bunch here, and a lot of older guys among the "crew" as well as several closer to your age.  I'm 65 now and as I look back at my youth and my first bike and all the places and situations I got into and mostly out of, I would like to impart a bit of perspective.  The thrill of riding is undeniable but control is your responsibility, always.  Understand the concept of DEFENSIVE DRIVING.

I am amazed that I survived my youth, I knew several friends over the years that didn't survive.  I was 18 when I got my first real motorcycle, a Ducati, and an older friend told me that I was taking too many chances.  The way he put it was  "you are being held up by the hand of God, so what are you gonna do when He has to scratch His a$$?"   For those that want/need to test themselves against the machine and road, go to the race track and go to a racing school.  If speed is not your thing at least focus on Defensive Driving.  They have a saying about pilots, "there are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are no old bold pilots."  That's us now.  Don't get me wrong, there is still a place for spirited riding when conditions allow but it is tempered by age and experience now.  I thought maybe you can benefit from the experience of others so you don't have to learn the hard way, and there is a LOT of experience on this site.  Probably you will learn some stuff the hard way anyway, but hopefully not too hard.

We all hope all you younger riders get to be older too.  Congratulations on your "new" bike, it is destined to be a fairly rare classic so keep it nice and enjoy it all along the way.

 :) spectre, hi and welcome to the ROV forum...that you have practically grown up with... ;D :D ;)

Enjoy the adventure of being a new rider AND a Visionary... 8)

           

I'll bet your dad told you some lame story about how your Vision looks way better than his when he bought it...

right?

welcome aboard and don't be afraid to ask questions... Dads can forget stuff 'ya know

I just noticed the avatar - World's second fastest Vision. With no carbs!? Is your dad gonna pull you around behind his? Come on Lucky, let him have his carbs!  ;D

Welcome to the group Kenny!  ;

I appreciate the replies guys, Re-vision, thanks for the offer, it's amazing how people I don't even know already want to help out  ;) and to answer your question, I can get my M endorsement at 16 here (score!) Fret nut, I appreciate your concern, I will be taking the MSF course, wearing all my gear, and maybe even taking a defensive driving course. I realize that it's not a matter of IF you go down, it's WHEN. I do have some prior experience as well, which I know my dad has showed you the ("cute" in his words) pocket bike that me and him repaired frame off. eventually I traded that for a 110cc pit/dirt bike, IMO perfect for learning shifting and muscle memory. Then, the ninja, enough said :P
NV, I'm 100% sure he wanted to say something like that but he settled for "your bike is in about the same condition as mine was." sure dad ;D And thanks for the welcome tiger and Rikugun!

Hi Kenny, you have been busy. There is no way I would have thought that tank could actually shine! I will see if I can find the airbox when I get home and get it in the mail.

engines locked up.  :( won't budge thru the access plate on the left.  got some PBlaster in the spark plug holes, but not expecting much...

Happy for you Kenny  ;)... and here's hoping for that "locked situation" to resolve itself shortly  :-\.  Is this a corrosion issue? Not certain about a good technique (other than the penetrant) if that is the situation, but possibly a bit of heat around the cylinder area might not hurt to get some metal movement happening in each cylinder.  The lower exhaust side is the best focus for some heat as it is most likely to have the corrosion from moisture collection there.  Using the rear wheel to rock the bike in gear may be the best way to get some gentle pressure on the piston.  A serious workout routine though...

Here's hoping...

nope, it ran 5 min or so while we attempted to set the synq & pilots & locked up to instant stop.

now Walt did tell me it had a knock, but we were all figuring it was probably starter clutch.  i didn't have it running long enough/well enough to diagnose it.

Walt, you drained the oil after running it, i assume looking for metal? did you find any?  i haven't pulled the filter yet, but we did pull the engine tonight.

anyone in the area have a running engine or a good cheap salvage yard in the area?

Before issuing a death certificate make certain that the starter clutch is not what's locking up the engine.  How many miles on the bike?

I will, but the engines already out..

Sorry to hear about that. I read the other thread but didn't know you had it running or the pre-knowledge of the knock. That doesn't sound promising.  :(

Sorry to hear about that too... :( you know the usual possiblities in this scenario but a quick check of the cam chains throught the tensioner access is a good idea (to see if they are still intact) or as the engine is now removed you can just as easily remove the valve covers.  Tiger had a similar situation with one of his engines this summer and his is no doubt a broken tensioner from some mishap in the past.  After almost 30 years (which is amazing) a few of these Visions are getting to the place where their engines will need the top ends torn down and repaired. Hopefully an economical fix is doable.

so I guess we call you  :'( "unLucky" now  ???

                                  what?                .you were expecting no gremlins with your Vision?
                                      ....   silly boy  ....

.... you just have a bigger gremlin than most others... that's all.

CdnLouie is right... it's about time someone posted a rebuild how to

what a wonderful opportunity for a young boy and his Dad to bond over  :)

I am really sorry to hear about the lock-up. When I had it, I tried to get it to turn over with no luck. I put top oil in it, waited an hour or so and it turned over. After that I put clean gas in and after some cranking, I got it started. I let it run long enough to get the oil warm, noting the knock. It would not rev due to the carbs. I shut it off and drained the oil, there was no metal but the oil was clean so it had been changed by a P.O.

Well we figure a titled frame is worth the price we payed, & we'll find an engine.  this is now a good chance to clean & paint the frame too.  in the meantime My wife has decided to share her bike with Kenny, he gets to ride it & work on it, & she gets the free labor (of course she's his mother, he has to do it if she asks anyway, lol)

There's some disapointment, but stuff happens, it's no ones fault, & life goes on.

^^^ couldn't really have said it beter. stuff happens, and it's not the end of the world, plus we can clean and paint it   :) 

That's a very mature and positive attitude to have. I'd like to think I'd take that kind of news with such grace...... but I'm not sure.   :'(

He's my son, he's used to adversity & dissapointment, lol  :D :D ;)

I was just thinking, he was just 5 years old when I joined this Forum...

Hey Lucky what about that roadtrip to the old wrecking yard that was caving in last time we went.  There was a couple of neglected Visions there if I remember correctly.

I've got most of September off before I start school.

David

I thought about that, I wonder what they would want for an engine.. as i recall they figured out a lot of that stuff was made of unobtanium & priced it accordingly...  if you can figure out who it was, i'd like to give them a call first....

It was in Morristown TN.
A couple google hits include this one (looks new - didn't find it in my searches before) http://www.necycle.com/

I think one of these may be one of the places we went to:

LEE'S CYCLE SALVAGE - 2376 Sulphur Springs - Morristown, TN 37813
Phone: 423-587-1114
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MID SOUTH MOTORCYCLE SALVAGE - 2104 Buffalo Trail - Morristown, TN 37814
Phone: 423 581-4699
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MOTORCYCLE SALVAGE - 2104 Buffalo Trail - Morristown, TN 37814-4302
Phone: 423 581-4699


And this one is pretty close to you:
SIX MILE CYCLE - 4901 Stump Road - Maryville, TN 37803
Phone: 865-856-7278

David

Yeah,  I think my engine is trash... a better boat anchor.
The stator housing /flywheel bolts were pounding out the threads in addition to the big stuck, plus +40K miles on the clock.
akvision

Lucky, have you determined the reason for the lock up?