dont know what to do now.... when removed everything prettymuch exploded and the clutch bolts were broken too.dont even know where the springs came from or how the rollers are placed.... post pics seperate
Within the last several days someone (YJ?) posted excellent starter clutch pictures. look around.
Quote from: Hartless on March 20, 2011, 12:37:54 AM
don't know what to do now.... post pics separate
Lets see pictures of the starter clutch and flywheel a.s.a.p We can then tell you whats good or bad buddy... :-\
You should have three rollers, springs and spring caps. With the starter clutch in place in the flywheel, you can see were they fit...spring, cap and then roller in each hole. Then the gear, that's still on the shaft, slips in to the starter clutch (do this on the work bench). This keeps everything together to reinstall...QBS is right, YJ has posted some great pictures/write up for you to follow...and I have done a couple of write ups (no pictures!!) on this too ;)
However, pictures first..........
8) ....... TIGER ....... 8)
Quote from: QBS on March 20, 2011, 01:34:04 AM
Within the last several days someone (YJ?) posted excellent starter clutch pictures. look around.
Nope, wasn't me but I have a feeling that that may be something I might be working on soon.
David
well for some reason its not letting me post pics right now, just freezes...i will as soon as i can. its pretty toast though. the part that is connected to the gear is completely cracked and the holes are ground about twice the size as normal
Starter Clutch
http://ridersofvision.net/rovforum/index.php?topic=12843.msg116842#msg116842
BDC
does anyone have an extra one laying around i can buy?
also has a crack that crosses the radius at one part
this was the better one
Adam, The first picture is the gear with the starter clutch cover attached to it...The second of one of the soc head cap screw...both kaput...(the cover, not the gear is kaput).
Can you put up a picture of the starter clutch, (both sides), as well as your flywheel please... ;)
8) .......TIGER....... 8)
Quotethe cover, not the gear is kaput).
The gear doesn't look terribly happy either :(
Should the bushing ID look so traumatized as it appears in the photo? :o
Think you are looking at oil grooves. BDC
ok. i thought the were supposed to one, not seperate....ill gt pics as soon as i can
QuoteThink you are looking at oil grooves
OOPS! my bad :D :)
Does the Vision use the same starter clutch as any other bikes?
(Have already copied the list of bikes that use the same stator + that the brake caliper is the same as an RZ350)
the last picture , is that the way its suppose to be set up?
VMX models use the same starter clutch. From what I can see the clutch is not cracked but the sheet metal cover is trash. You need to closely inspect the smooth part of the gear that fits inside the rollers, and the surfaces of the ramps the rollers ride against, and the rollers too. Any washboard figure means get another part because those surfaces must be smooth to function properly.
the rollers are fine , so is the clutch, but the part of the fly wheel where the clutch sits in it is grooved....
The last picture is set up correctly with the exception of the missing sheet metal cover. A good sheet metal cover would be crimped on to the clutch as a single component (it holds the rollers in place like the flywheel does on the other side). Consider the sheet metal and the copper as one piece not to be separated. Flywheel grooving is normal though yours looks a bit rough. Check the gear surface for smoothness where the rollers contact it. BDC
thanks. im pretty sure im just going to get a new one. i think that i might nees a new fly wheel because the thread for the bolts are a little worn.... maybe
Perhaps the flywheel threads could be re cut up to the next size and an appropriate bolt be used.
perhaps :)
Quote from: cvincer on March 21, 2011, 10:37:54 PM
Does the Vision use the same starter clutch as any other bikes?
(Have already copied the list of bikes that use the same stator + that the brake caliper is the same as an RZ350)
1200 and 1300 Venture 83-93 and Vmax 84-98 at least
got new one(used) from re vision. already on the bike and going good. just need to clean carbs again!
I'd be worried about the oil pump screen being clogged with metal filings after that. If you have oil pressure problems that would be one place to look. That's what happened to me.
yes.... i am kinda worried as well. i read your thread about how you found yours clogged and thought to myself , " did i check that?" no haha. and i do not have an oil pressure gauge yet , but it does not seem as though the pressure is low.i will probably check fairly soon
If you ever do get in there at the oil pump you might want tape a magnet on a wire and run it around on the bottom of your oil pan after you take the pump out. I did that and collected more tiny metal pieces.