Has anyone been following this? Last year Yamaha released a crossplane triple engine concept presumably to be used in some yet to be seen models. Earlier this year pictures were released of the 2014 FZ09 that uses the 847cc triple. Looks to be going after the successful Triumph models and with a very reasonable MSRP they might just do it - assuming the bike is as good as they claim. :)
Styling wise it may be one of those love it or hate it things. It's taken me a while to love the Speed and Street Triples but I'm there now. This new Yamaha has similar lines so I'm OK with it and really appreciate the technology and features. If the exhaust note sounds a sweet as the Triumphs I'll be hooked. :D
June online CW article here and in Sept magazine issue out now. http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/06/11/2014-yamaha-fz-09-first-look-review-photos/ (http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/06/11/2014-yamaha-fz-09-first-look-review-photos/)
Hmm, I wonder what kind of alternator it has?
Well, it's a triple so 3 phase of course! ;D ;D
The charging system is is shown in a cutaway drawing in the magazine. I think I am impressed with the bike so far, the 414lb wet is nice! Fairly flat seating position, upright handlebars, naked bike looks good to me. VMester and I were talking about it yesterday, back of seat is smallish for the passenger. $8,000 is good price for something with that much new technology
All true, really love the light weight. For me, it would need some type of fairing/windshield (preferably frame mounted), and a Scotoiler chain maintenance system.
I see one of those nasty chains!
Looks great and Thanks for the pics.That tank on certain angles sure looks like a 31 year old bike I ride.Look forward to hearing that exhaust note.
Here's video of the European version "MT-09" Looks like a real hooligan bike! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs3RTfu3QC8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs3RTfu3QC8)
The MT series looks really mean and rude. I like it. I've been hoping that somebody from Canada will buy one and import it for me to buy used... For dirt cheap of course :)
I have a hard time accepting the $8,000. price as 'reasonable'. In 1971 I had the choice of a new Norton Commando or a new Honda 750, each under $2000. Maybe I'm becoming a dinosaur.
Unless you're looking at a 250cc bike, 7-10 seems to be the "normal" list price of a new bike. Fancier models (like BMW and Ducati) are normally in the 12-16 range, and the really specialized models like the Vmax are 20. Obviously the sell price is usually lower than list.
Buell sells his race bike for 30, and if you we're looking at a Motus or a Bimota you'd spend even more. (How's that for a hodgepodge of dissimilar models, huh?)
I wonder what the conversion for inflation would be. I know that my folks bought a 20k house in 74, and it would sell for 80 now. I also remember my dad giving me heck for buying a banged up '67 mustang for 1500 when he bought a 2 year old one (in the 60's of course) for 600.
It's just money, I'm not gonna take it with me when I go so I might as well spend it and have fun on 2 wheels, right?
In 1986 a big mac cost $1.40 an RZ350 was $3,499 ie 2500 big macs
Now a big mac is $4.56 so a bike cheaper than about $12k is cheaper than the RZ was when it came out
Quote from: fret nut on September 04, 2013, 11:43:18 PM
I have a hard time accepting the $8,000. price as 'reasonable'. In 1971 I had the choice of a new Norton Commando or a new Honda 750, each under $2000.
It would be interesting to calculate what they would cost in today's dollars!
Quote from: Jimustanguitar on September 04, 2013, 02:19:59 PM
The MT series looks really mean and rude. I like it. I've been hoping that somebody from Canada will buy one and import it for me to buy used... For dirt cheap of course :)
You can buy your very own at the end of this month right here in the US! That's when the FZ is released and if I'm not mistaken they are the same bike with different designation for different markets.
Quote from: Jimustanguitar on September 04, 2013, 02:19:59 PM
The MT series looks really mean and rude. I like it. I've been hoping that somebody from Canada will buy one and import it for me to buy used... For dirt cheap of course :)
You can buy your very own at the end of this month right here in the US! That's when the FZ is released and if I'm not mistaken they are the same bike with different designation for different markets.
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It's a v-twin actually, so different model. It's the MT 01 that I really like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_MT-01
Looks like it's discontinued now.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mFsX2_n1RGc/SxCCjypwDjI/AAAAAAAAB_M/GL38Vuf7onU/s400/yamaha_.jpg) (http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_12_04__23_27_48/428_yamaha%20mt%202.jpg61653923-d727-4868-828d-cae249686b92Larger.jpg)
There are so many neat bikes put out by the companies today, wish I could aford a dozen of em. But afraid the Vision and the "Connie" I bought this summer will have to do on my budget. Doubt I will ever wear the "Connie" out.
QuoteIt's a v-twin actually, so different model. It's the MT 01 that I really like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_MT-01
Looks like it's discontinued now.
Oh, that is rude lookin! :) So they replaced the V twin MT with the MT triple in the European market? I guess that's why you went with the Buell?? :)
Quote from: ProphetOfDoom on September 05, 2013, 02:58:00 AM
In 1986 a big mac cost $1.40 an RZ350 was $3,499 ie 2500 big macs
Now a big mac is $4.56 so a bike cheaper than about $12k is cheaper than the RZ was when it came out
So, since you put it that way... About 4 years ago, I bought my first Vision for the equivalent of 22 Big Mac's... Awesome! :)
Regarding statistics: I learned this a long time ago in a marketing course,....You've got lies, damned lies, and then statistics.
Quote from: Rikugun on August 11, 2013, 11:05:56 AM
Has anyone been following this? Last year Yamaha released a crossplane triple engine concept presumably to be used in some yet to be seen models. Earlier this year pictures were released of the 2014 FZ09 that uses the 847cc triple. Looks to be going after the successful Triumph models and with a very reasonable MSRP they might just do it - assuming the bike is as good as they claim. :)
And bike companies and motorcycle magazines have never lied to us before, right? Always remember, bike companies are in business to sell bikes and bike magazines are in business to sell ads to bike companies.
I've been traveling and just caught up on my bike mag reading last week. I really liked the looks of this bike and I've always had a soft spot for triples. The one thing I noticed is that they don't mention ABS. The next new bike I buy (as if I buy a new one every year or so) is going to have ABS and any bike that doesn't have it is a nonstarter in my book. I can't see how Yamaha threw so much new technology at this bike and left that off.
Art
Quote from: artbone on September 22, 2013, 10:07:45 AM
I've been traveling and just caught up on my bike mag reading last week. I really liked the looks of this bike and I've always had a soft spot for triples. The one thing I noticed is that they don't mention ABS. The next new bike I buy (as if I buy a new one every year or so) is going to have ABS and any bike that doesn't have it is a nonstarter in my book. I can't see how Yamaha threw so much new technology at this bike and left that off.
Art
I'm interested in this bike, and from a few articles I have read recently;
"ABS version will be available in late December and while the price has yet to be announced by Yamaha, it's expected to be a £400 extra"
I am thinking of getting one in two years and if so it will be one with ABS.
I figured it was just an error of omission on the part of the magazine. I would be surprised if any bike in that class didn't have ABS at least as an option.
You can see that I've got a lot of bikes but I don't have any with ABS. I had a BMW 1200 GS that had it but I hated the bike. Not because of the brakes.
Well, actually one of the reasons was the brakes. The ABS went out about a month after the warranty expired.
Hey Art, on that new, lithium battery in one of your bikes, they do not like overcharging, make sure your running voltage is not over 14.5. Also I didnotice the abs feature as an option. Vision meister and I were on a ride yesterday and I saw on of the new gs, with the down draft intake, fancy suspension.
I read an article on the new MT today. Apparently Yamaha has been asking some of the test riders what they'd think about the engine in an adventure bike. That sounds interesting.
I wonder if they'll leave the "Super Ten's" twin alone and come up with another model to compete with Triumph's Tiger models - could be interesting. :)
In other news, Can Am's 2014 Spyder RT model will be sporting a Rotax 1.3 liter triple.
Cycle World comparison: FZ09, MV's Brutale 800 and Triumph Street Triple R
http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/10/10/yamaha-fz-09-vs-triumph-street-triple-r-vs-mv-agusta-brutale-800-comparison-test-review-specs-photos/ (http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/10/10/yamaha-fz-09-vs-triumph-street-triple-r-vs-mv-agusta-brutale-800-comparison-test-review-specs-photos/)
Despite (or due too?) it's low cost the testers like it. :) Like everything it's not perfect but some of the praise:
"...the FZ-09 is a lot of bike for the money"
"...puts a bullet in boring bargain bikes"
"It feels like it is pumping 1,000cc power out of the 847cc motor"
"On smoother roads, the Yamaha behaves fantastic, and the riding position is best for longer rides."
I think a sport touring version a la BMW F800GT would be a natural. Not sure if the market is there for such a bike, though I would be interested.
More likely would be a v-strom-like "adventure" style...hopefully without adding a lot to the price as Suzuki is now doing with the V-strom 1000 $12,000+
There is a not very enthusiastic review of the FZ9 in the new Motorcycle Consumer News
Have a link?
here's one that seems consistent with the other reviews out there...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCIg4S52aCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCIg4S52aCs)