Riders Of Vision

General => General Board => Topic started by: cvincer on November 09, 2015, 06:31:22 PM

Title: Forum Check
Post by: cvincer on November 09, 2015, 06:31:22 PM

For the last 8 days not a single posting to the forum ......at least when accessed here in Australia. This posting to check if things

are still working.   Anybody out there?
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: PwrManDan on November 09, 2015, 06:58:45 PM
Works in Ohio
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: The Prophet of Doom on November 09, 2015, 08:08:41 PM
It was pretty quiet this time last year as well.


Myself, I've done nothing much worth posting about.  It's spring now so working on the bike is much more pleasant.
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: cvincer on November 09, 2015, 08:50:15 PM

Many thanks gentlemen.
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Post by: fret not on November 10, 2015, 01:43:11 AM
It's just going into the cold season here.  Maybe I can clear out all the guitars and mandolins from my shop so I can get the time to work on my XZ.  I have a looooooong list of things to do. :police:

I just recently renewed my driver License, good for another 5 years with no restrictions. :angel:
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: dingleberry on November 10, 2015, 04:29:02 AM
Have noticed it's a bit quiet as well. I'm renewing my licence here in NZ too fret. Lasts for 10 years before the powers that be demand more money. Have to go see my sexy doctor for a medical so I can have heavy truck endorsed on my licence. Hopefully those days are well behind me but you never know when it might be useful. on the XZ front, nothing to report as usual, although I did dabble in fitting the engine to a gsxr250 aluminium frame. Looks like an easy fit with the rear mount lining up perfectly but as I'm getting rid of all my jap bikes and parts it will probably not come to anything. Most of my energy lately has been put to use hunting for BSA Sloper parts.
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: The Prophet of Doom on November 10, 2015, 05:27:39 AM
Quote from: dingleberry on November 10, 2015, 04:29:02 AM
Have noticed it's a bit quiet as well. I'm renewing my licence here in NZ too fret. Lasts for 10 years before the powers that be demand more money. Have to go see my sexy doctor for a medical so I can have heavy truck endorsed on my licence. Hopefully those days are well behind me but you never know when it might be useful. on the XZ front, nothing to report as usual, although I did dabble in fitting the engine to a gsxr250 aluminium frame. Looks like an easy fit with the rear mount lining up perfectly but as I'm getting rid of all my jap bikes and parts it will probably not come to anything. Most of my energy lately has been put to use hunting for BSA Sloper parts.
It's unfair to say things like "gsxr250 aluminium frame" without posting evidence.  I know you have pics
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: allstateguy on November 10, 2015, 03:17:25 PM
recovering slowly from lumbar surgery. I really want to rebuild the 83 carb and put it on the 82 and have some smooth miles ahead of me. All else is ready.
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: Blake on November 10, 2015, 05:45:50 PM
I'm still hanging around too.  I've been trying to get the car projects out of the way before winter sets in, so i can then hibernate in the garage with the vision and finally put it back together in time for winter.  The engine is all buttoned up, but like normal, I keep acquiring new parts and modifying it further.  It'll be a fun winter.
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: skucera on November 11, 2015, 10:01:03 PM
I'm in the same situation.  My bike is off the road, so I don't have anything to contribute, so I just check in every now and then.  And yeah, the sound of crickets gets loud in here every now and then.

Scott
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: ArrrGeee on November 13, 2015, 08:53:39 AM
Quote from: allstateguy on November 10, 2015, 03:17:25 PM
recovering slowly from lumbar surgery. I really want to rebuild the 83 carb and put it on the 82 and have some smooth miles ahead of me. All else is ready.

glad you are on the mend.

so, interestingly I just pulled the 83 carbs off to run a set of 82's
they are near perfect with the exception of them wanting to percolate when really hot ( ethanol I suspect )
I had the same sort of problem with the 83's plus the 82 tank has pushed me into trying it.

I dropped the floats about 2mm with a small improvement but not quite perfect.
one of my neighbors suggesting buy gas at the local airport due to the availability of non-gasahol.
so I wondered what  anyone is doing to deal with it.

-R




Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: pullshocks on November 15, 2015, 02:32:41 PM
Could you describe what you mean by "percolating?"

Getting the float levels right is a bitch, see my thread "solution for float level adjustment vexation"

When it is really hot, maybe the change in fuel density allows the floats to sink lower, translating to a higher fuel level....

Supposedly the reason they went to the fuel return line on the 83s was to keep (relatively) cooler fuel coming in to the carbs.

Wow....I sure do miss being a Vision owner.
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: ArrrGeee on November 15, 2015, 11:30:04 PM

to put it simply. when fuel boils in your carburetor.

to make matters worse, ethanol alcohol lowers the boiling point of gasoline.

I'm not having a problem with the float levels, on the contrary the
issue is on a hot day when it gets good and heat soaked say in stop and go traffic
the fuel will start boiling in the carbs making the engine start to run rough and want to stall.
this isn't anything new per se and certainly isn't limited to the vision but, seems to be more pronounced lately.

back when cars had carburetors ( wow did I really say that ? )  they would put an insulating
spacer in between the manifold and the carburetor to prevent heat transfer that would cause the same thing.

my neighbor who is a pilot, owns an 80's honda vfr that has the same issue when he runs the E10
that is at the pumps.
perhaps it is more pronounced here in the northeast, I read where they change the fuel blend
in the cooler weather, although it hasn't really gotten cold yet here.

my local bike store pushes the star tron stuff that states that it will fix the issues with ethanol gas.

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/Reviews/936/29285/Star-Tron-Enzyme-Fuel-Treatment

http://www.amazon.com/Star-brite-Tron-Gasoline-Additive/dp/B002E9A6PO

I haven't tried it yet I was just wondering if anyone has had the same issue and what steps they were taking...


peace.
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: ArrrGeee on November 15, 2015, 11:36:44 PM
related article

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a3180/summer-blend-vs-winter-blend-gasoline-whats-the-difference-13747431/

Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: Guerrero on February 24, 2016, 04:52:33 PM
He guyz, long time have not been here. Some people from facebook vision page say, that it is impossible to register on ROV, they got no answers. Maybe some1 can work with that?

Have a great day, Tom
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: Walt_M. on April 27, 2016, 11:17:12 AM
Wow, things have really slowed down over here. Find a gas station or 3 that sell non-ethanol marine fuel and be happy. There is a site, Puregas.com I think that lists the stations in the US and Canada.
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: Single Carb Vision on May 01, 2016, 04:42:44 PM
In the OLD DAYS on cars, it was called Vapor Locking. People would wrap aluminum foil around the fuel line to the carburetor other would put rubber insulation on the line I even remember seeing a row of wooden clothes pins clipped  to the fuel line.
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: Walt_M. on May 03, 2016, 06:58:56 PM
I think the electric fuel pump will solve the problem on mine.  The fuel boils, the vapor goes out the vent, the pump refills the float bowls. 
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Post by: Single Carb Vision on May 03, 2016, 07:26:55 PM
Electric or mechanical, all they do is pump fuel.
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Post by: Walt_M. on May 03, 2016, 07:51:13 PM
The engine doesn't have to be running for the electric one to pump. Also great for cold starts, I have one on my TDM so I know.
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Post by: Single Carb Vision on May 05, 2016, 01:23:16 PM
I'll agree it will pump enough to put some pressure on the line without the engine running or turning over. A mechanical pump starts to work as soon as you start cranking the engine over to start it.   
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: Walt_M. on May 05, 2016, 04:57:24 PM
If it has been more than a week or 2 since the engine was last run, the first minute or so of cranking will be the mechanical pump filling the float bowls enough for the fuel to get to the cylinders. The electric pump fills the bowls in about 3 seconds, less wear and tear on the starter. But if you don't like electric pumps, you are not convinced and nothing I say will change your mind.
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: Single Carb Vision on May 05, 2016, 05:20:32 PM
They both have good and bad points. You've mentioned the good points of electric. If either fails it's electrical or mechanical  operation they are both out of the game. If the battery is dead they are both out of the game but if those float bowls are empty, and the battery is dead you can start the bike/car on compression. It's kind of like a electric starter and a kick starter. For a while some bikes came with both.
Title: Re: Forum Check
Post by: QBS on May 05, 2016, 07:25:59 PM
If all else fails, make certain that there is at least a gallon of gas in the tank, put the fuel petcock in the "PRI" position, wait 2 minutes, and declare Victory.  Don't ever use the starter motor to indirectly fill the carb floats.