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Title: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on February 27, 2021, 12:23:45 AM
Moto journalists are not without things to write about, but not racing yet.  Before the season officially begins there will be a practice session before a race weekend, likely jammed together as two consecutive weekends at the same track so everyone doesn't have to travel so much.   Big question is "what about Marquez?"  We just wait and see.  Otherwise it looks like a great setting for the new season as all the seats are filled for now, and mechanical advances have been made by everyone we hope.  It is a very good group of riders on some very competitive machinery, as the 'new guys' are quickly catching up with the big factories.  Because of the virus, this season will probably unfold much like last season, only the 'names will be changed to protect the innocent'. (They will figure it out when they get there.)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on March 10, 2021, 04:42:09 PM
Pre-season testing is underway in Qatar and Marc is not there. He knows he came back too soon last year so he doesn't want to rush it.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on March 10, 2021, 11:36:54 PM
I certainly wish Marquez heals well this time.  Whatever happens will be interesting as the competition is at a very high level, and now Aprillia has joined the 'sharp end' of the pack.  I have a feeling that the virus isn't done yet, and that will figure heavily in the revenue streams of promoters, and really everyone connected with MOTOGP racing.  There are better days ahead, and I hope we can get there soon.  Gotta have crowds through the gate buying tickets, souvenirs, food, etc.$$$.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on March 13, 2021, 12:36:39 PM
Interesting new wrinkle, the government of Qatar has offered to vaccinate the GP paddock. That won't help the fans but the series can proceed.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on March 21, 2021, 01:27:28 PM
Looks like the race in Qatar is still on for Sunday the 28th.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: MikeScoot on March 24, 2021, 04:16:30 AM
Great news thread! Thanks for the 'heads up'.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on March 26, 2021, 03:03:55 PM
FP2 is complete and Ducati are 1-2, all the Yamahas are in for Q2 for now.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on March 27, 2021, 03:37:04 PM
Looking at the qualifying lap times shows that competition will be fierce in all the classes.  This is shaping up to be another interesting season as the struggle goes on.   What surprises will appear along the way? 8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on March 27, 2021, 05:21:14 PM
The MotoGp is scheduled to be on NBCSN at 1130 PM eastern US time. That's past my bedtime so I will be watching Monday morning, it'll be like Christmas! The qualifying times are so close.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: MikeScoot on March 27, 2021, 06:27:31 PM
lolol "Like Christmas" lolol   Yeah, certainly a treat to look forward to. I'll be watching after about a day's delay too.
Will download practice sessions etc. to watch in the meantime.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on March 28, 2021, 04:39:28 PM
Thanks to Videopass, I got to open my present early. The buffering was not good but it was a good return to racing. No spoiler here but watch when you can. And to put the bow on it, we come back next weekend and do it again.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on April 01, 2021, 04:12:02 PM
FP for Losail 2 starts tomorrow. Be interesting to see who has done their homework.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: MikeScoot on April 02, 2021, 12:26:46 AM
I have to thank you fellas for not posting any spoilers. Thanks.
Finally cued-up to watch race one right now!
Cheer :-)

(edited after watching the race) Wow! Yet another excellent race. It just keeps getting better and better! Looks like another spectacular season is underway. Bravo!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on April 05, 2021, 07:49:27 AM
Round 2 is over, another must watch.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: MikeScoot on April 07, 2021, 05:46:36 AM
lololol Whew! Finished watching it only a couple of minutes ago. Breathtaking! Just when we thought it couldn't get any better IT DID! Sensational racing!
I need a valium sandwich!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on April 07, 2021, 09:49:49 AM
On to Portimao, but will Oliveira again exercise his dominance or will tires be the factor? The softs don't work on KTMs. Will Marc be back? The plot thickens.             As of April, 12, Marc Marquez is slated to be at Portimao this week, oh boy!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on April 15, 2021, 04:02:06 AM
Marc has announced he will be at Portimao this weekend.  Cleared to race by his doctors.  We get to see which Marc will show up.  I just hope he doesn't get hurt.  Mending arm and all.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: MikeScoot on April 15, 2021, 05:07:44 AM

 I'll be a bit surprised if Marc spends much time at the "cutting edge". After all, he's been sidelined for a few months and that has to have had an effect on his attitude (read; SHJT, I'm not superman after all). But the guy is always full of surprises so I suppose we'll just have to wait to see how he feels and what he does.

 Also of very great interest is that Dovi has expressed great resolution to return to MotoGP - on an Aprilia. That's a bit down the track but worth keeping an eye on as things develop.

 Lately we are seeing some of the best racing I can recall - ever! Might start keeping the vids archived.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on April 18, 2021, 06:08:12 PM
Several contenders crashing out (Rins, Miller, Zarco, etc.), . . . the pace is fierce!  If Marc remains healthy I would expect him to challenge for the championship before the season is done.  At this time he needs to rebuild the muscle strength of his damaged arm, the bone seems to be good now. 

They line up on Sundays, and ya never know what will happen.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on April 26, 2021, 02:08:08 PM
Next stop, Jerez. Quartararo won there last year. It's also the scene of Marc's crash. Lots to think about.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: MikeScoot on April 26, 2021, 05:39:16 PM
Yes, it will be interesting to see whether he can get back onto the horse that threw him. I'm guessing he probably can BUT he'll have some really tough competition now that the taste of winning has recently blessed so many other riders and teams.
Should be another good race - probably pretty spectacular.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on April 26, 2021, 08:05:44 PM
Marc is not to be underestimated BUT he has been bested several times in recent seasons when he was healthy.  Dovisioso and  Rins have both beaten him in head to head battles but not on a regular basis.  Now Marc has to gain strength in his arms, especially the right one that has been so traumatically abused.  I think Honda should make a "suzuki" for him.  If Honda did make a "suzuki" clone I think other riders would also benefit from a sweeter handling missile, and Honda would get better overall results.   8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on April 27, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Honda already has that bike. They were getting no results without Marc so they had to tone it down so Bradl, Nakagami and brother Alex could survive it and Marc looked pretty wasted after coming home 7th on it. Will Marc's conditioning improve before Espargaro figures out the Honda. Will Dovizioso come to an agreement with Aprillia? Aliex Espargaro got a well-earned 6th and Dovi could get them on the podium. Such intrigue. And we haven't even considered Yamaha, Ducati and Suzuki, loving it.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on May 01, 2021, 10:12:33 AM
Qualifying for Jerez is finished, NBCSN is televising tomorrow at 7:30 PM Eastern US.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on May 14, 2021, 07:43:27 PM
FP1 and FP2 at LeMans are finished, Zarco, Quartararo and Vinales are on top and likely into Q2. Rain is forecast for tomorrow.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on June 19, 2021, 06:09:21 PM
Race in Germany this Sunday, lots of possible winners, and warm weather, so tires will have grip . . . until they wear out.  This should be an exciting scramble, and we never know what will happen on Sunday, until it happens.  Marc Marquez 93 is sort of "back" but right arm is still problematic.  The bone is 'healed' but the muscles are weak from the long period of not being used and some degree of bone misalignment from the surgeries .  He starts from the 2nd row!  Aprillia (Alex Espargaro 41) starts from front row!  This is a major accomplishment for Aprillia, as they now have a 'tool' capable of holding it's own at the sharp end of the pack. The usual suspects make up the remainder of the grid, and it is anybody's guess as to who will win this one.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: MikeScoot on June 20, 2021, 03:31:33 AM
Looking forward to the race. Probably get to watch it tomorrow night after 10-11 hours driving work during the day.

You gotta lov being on the road! Was riding most of today as is a bit of a weekly Sunday habit now.

If you need a bit of excitement, try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGsTcmLG7dU
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on June 24, 2021, 05:43:24 PM
Entertaining race in Germany, Assen is this weekend and a completely different style of track.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on June 24, 2021, 11:05:39 PM
Interesting times.  I like that KTM are doing so well.   8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on June 27, 2021, 12:45:54 PM
Assen was run today, watch it when you can. It will be 5 weeks before the next round.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on June 27, 2021, 05:36:26 PM
Marquez 7th after a back row start.  Rossi crashed out, as did Miller, and a few others.  Marc Marquez still needs to regain strength.  This break in the schedule should help his healing/recovery.  I'm looking forward to the next race and to find out who goes where.  There 'was' a rumor that Maverick would go to Aprillia, but then quickly denied, . .  sort of.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: MikeScoot on June 28, 2021, 06:50:49 AM
Rossi absolutely trashed his bike! Very spectacular.
Nakagami looked great for a while but just lost the momentum - or was it the plot he lost.
Another very entertaining race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on June 28, 2021, 06:56:57 PM
I wonder whether Nakagami is in great physical condition so he can endure the whole race  or  has a psychological hurdle to deal with.  Some individuals have some difficulty dealing with success.  He was out in front several times  while Marquez was at home healing, and he has been "up there" in several races and then fades away.  We know he can do the job if he will.  Will he?  I was rooting for him during the race just to get on the podium, or a win would be appropriate if he could make it happen sometime.  Maybe later.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on June 29, 2021, 10:17:55 AM
Does anyone have a bigger psychological problem than Vinales? He was last in Germany and 2nd at Assen, on the same bike!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on July 03, 2021, 01:09:33 AM
Maybe Gerloff gained some perspective from his recent Moto GP ride, as he just topped the WSBK time sheets at Donnington, .3+ ahead of Rea!  Rumor has it he might go to Petronas/aqua.  Interesting times.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on August 01, 2021, 02:32:04 PM
Next Wednesday 'they' will converge on the Spielberg track to begin practice and qualifying for the Sunday race.  Aside from all the drama ('soap opera' for men) there should be some exciting racing.  Valentino Rossi 'may retire' (he has been pushed off the factory Yamaha team, and on to the Pertonas team that does not want him)or head up and manage his own team for Yamaha, Vinales might go somewhere (Aprillia ?, he left the factory Yamaha team).  Pedrosa(KTM) and Crutchlow(YAMAHA) are both entered to race.  Marquez has been seen riding a Honda 600, and reported to be in very good form.  So, the stage is set, and we will see what happens when it all unfolds.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on August 01, 2021, 06:58:15 PM
Well, this is KTMs 'home track' so look for Oliveira and Binder. Marquez may be in better condition but we will know more about that on Sunday. Zarco may be getting desperate now so he could try another 'Yamaha takeout'. Who knows what demons are lurking in Vinales head. If Quartararo gets top 5, he will be champion for 2021.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on August 06, 2021, 12:05:47 AM
Valentino Rossi has announced he will retire at the end of this season.  So, maybe he will be out of the clutches of the Saudi prince who rules over the Petronas team.  Valentino had a good run, 9 times world champion, and a legacy of mentoring younger riders.  Franco Morbidelli was one, and look where he is now!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on August 08, 2021, 10:51:38 AM
Entertaining race in Austria, it will be on NBCSN at 1130 eastern tonight. I didn't realize how much I had missed it. If you're DVRing, best to add 30 minutes.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on August 12, 2021, 05:27:57 PM
After another last place finish and unusual rider input on the bike after the end of the race, he was hitting the rev limiter coming down pit lane. Maverick Vinales will not be participating at this weekend's race in Austria.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on August 14, 2021, 02:55:47 PM
Ducati, Yamaha, Ducati, (first row)
Ducati, Honda, Ducati, (second row)

then the rest of the pack.  It looks like anyone of the 'usual suspects' could win this one.  We will know tomorrow! 8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on August 16, 2021, 07:46:48 AM
Well, that was a goat rodeo! No narrative just watch if you get a chance.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: MikeScoot on August 16, 2021, 08:14:18 AM
Ha ha ha! That was great! Ha ha ha! I can't get the smile off my face :-) :-) :-) Brilliant- with a good bit of luck. :-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on August 26, 2021, 01:06:18 PM
AUG 29 RACE at Silverstone UK, so I am watching for reports from the practice sessions that should be happening now.   8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on August 28, 2021, 12:41:21 AM
Nobody knows what will happen on Sunday when they line up, but it looks like Quartararo(Yamaha) will have the pole position, . . . so far.  The grid positions will be set tomorrow in Q2 (qualifying).  The talk among the riders is that the track has huge grip, so managing tires will be important.  More than one race has been lost while leading because the tires wore out.  Better to be close to the front at the end of the race and still have a bit of grip and drive for a final charge to the checkered flag than to be leading and not have anything left when someone comes by at the end.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on August 28, 2021, 05:11:33 PM
Pol Espargaro, Bagnaia and Quartararo on the front row. there have been several crashes due to cold tires, don't know what the weather there will be tomorrow.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on August 28, 2021, 05:50:45 PM
It is pleasing to see challengers to Quarteraro's recent  blazing dominance.  Martin, Espargaro, Marquez, Bagnaia, and others look to be competitive, so it should be a good race on Sunday.  England, ya know, so weather will be unknown until it happens.  Both Marquez and Quarteraro have taken tumbles in practice, let's hope no one gets hurt.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on August 28, 2021, 10:56:16 PM
Pol Espargaro / REPSOL HONDA sitting in pole position this time.  Quartararo still starting on the front row.  Marquez in second row.  This is shaping up to be a rather crowded first turn scramble.  I hope they all get through the first few turns safely.  Actually, I hope they all get through the whole race safely.  We will know how it all went sometime within the next 15 hours or so.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on August 29, 2021, 02:38:41 PM
Some first lap attrition as Marquez loses the front and takes out rookie Martin (Ducati).  It is clear from the slowMo video Marc's front tire lost traction and skated across the track into Martin,taking them both down and out.  Losing the front is one of the main problems Honda needs to improve.  This is not a new problem, as Cal Crutchlow also complained in years past of the tendency of the Honda to lose the front, resulting in going down.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on August 30, 2021, 03:23:55 AM
It is very good to see all six manufacturers represented in the top six finishers.  DORNA has achieved their goal of making things competitive for everyone so there is closer and more exciting racing to draw larger crowds.  Now if they could get rid of that pesky virus the crowds could attend in greater numbers.($)  I think it is amazing that such races are made to happen in spite of very low spectator attendance and consequent low financial income from the ticket sales.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on September 06, 2021, 04:17:00 PM
 Racing in Spain in a few days.   :police:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on September 06, 2021, 06:47:14 PM
I will be interested in seeing how Vinales goes on the Aprilia.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on September 08, 2021, 02:07:53 AM
Aprillia just recently achieved their first podium, maybe they can get two this time.  This is another one that 'anybody' can win it.  Quarty is blazing, Mavrick should be fast on the Aprillia, it is Marquez's 'back yard', Miller is hot, . . . . . . we will find out on Sunday.

My 'little brother' just made a record at Bonneville on a 250 Aermacci at Speed Week (it was what they call 'low hanging fruit' but a record none the less), and now is preparing his Suzuki T500 for World of Speed this coming weekend.  This 500 class is a steeper hill, and he has a tendency to hole a piston now and then.  Fingers crossed and all. :angel:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on September 10, 2021, 09:46:42 AM
After FP2, Aleix Espargaro is 2nd fast after Jack Miller, Crutchlow is 3rd on Vinales' Yamaha and Vinales is 18th on the other Aprilia.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on September 10, 2021, 04:58:18 PM
This is only Friday, there is still qualifying on Saturday.  More interesting as the day goes on.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on September 12, 2021, 03:01:28 PM
If you want excitement, watch this race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on September 12, 2021, 03:09:16 PM
Especially the last few laps!  Marc is almost back!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: MikeScoot on September 13, 2021, 05:03:19 AM
Mama Mia! What a great dice at the end. So many great riders up there over the last couple of seasons. Fabulous.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on September 13, 2021, 05:30:29 PM
Yes, Marc is back, to being a dick. He wasn't as fast as Bagnaia and the 7 pass attempts he made resulted in him being easily repassed because he couldn't keep it on the racing line and ultimately the track.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: MikeScoot on September 14, 2021, 02:22:23 AM
lolol. His ego certainly hasn't gone away. Looked bloudy dejected at not having won. Did seem to have pulled his head in a bit though.
Just wonder whether his ego not being regularly fed will allow him to continue racing much longer. My guess is that it won't.
To make things even more difficult for him there seems to be a lot less tolerance toward dangerously aggressive riding of late. Not mentioning any names lolol.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on September 17, 2021, 01:40:06 PM
First day of practice at Misano is over. It was dry to start then it rained. Fastest overall is, drumroll please, Vinales!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on September 18, 2021, 10:27:53 PM
Vinales, in a recent article he was touted to be the king of qualifying and last in the race.  Maybe he will break that pattern and just go fast.  I would like to see the Aprillia make some news.  Their head wizard was purloined by Ducati a few years ago if you remember.  I love this stuff.  (MotoGP: soap opera for men).
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: fret not on September 19, 2021, 12:54:45 AM
Vinales qualified in the 4th row for the start.  Not bad but not a great position.  Just thinking about the start of a race starts the adrenaline; all the bikes beginning to move at the same moment and going every which way threading between the other bikes as they pick up speed, and everyone with a handful of throttle aiming for the first turn and hoping no other bike will be occupying the same space. First turn pile-ups can happen, and I think it is amazing that they don't happen more often. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Walt_M. on September 19, 2021, 10:17:55 AM
The front row was Bagnaia, Miller and Quartararo. The second row was all Ducati. Now watch the race, another good one.