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Title: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: QBS on November 12, 2005, 04:01:02 PM
Went to the International Motorcycle Trade and Assessory Show at the Relient Center In Houston TX yesterday evening.  As always, had an enjoyable time.  The show was co-sponsored by Toyota and Cycle World Magazine.  As you might imagine, Cycle World Magazine had an impressive display area that showcased several noteable bikes including the OW48 Yamaha that King Kenny Roberts won the 1980 World Championship on.  However, the pedistaled centerpiece of the entire display was devoted to our one and only American Flyer Vision!!

There it was in all its flat gray glory for all the world to see with a plaque carrying a reprint of the story that accompanied the bikes' original introduction in the magazine.  Of course, I gave the bike careful scrutiny.  Here's what I dicovered that you might not already have determined from the magazine story.

The bike still has its electric starter.  The carburator is a side draft Mikuni supposedly off a Harley.  The carb mounts in line with the crankshaft and feeds into what appears to be a custom made T type manifold.  The air cleaner mounts on the carb with what appears to be a custom made L fitting.  The air filter faces forward like on so many modified Harleys.  Notice how this leaves the air box space under the tank unoccupied.  This is where the battery lives.  The regulator/rectifier lives under and to the rear of the left foot peg.   Contrary to what the plaque stated, I think the bike is a modified '82 as it has only a single disc.   Didn't get good look at the instrument area so can't comment on that.
All references to Yamaha have been ground off the engine.  The drive line and chassis are 100% V as are the brakes front and rear.  The rear brake backing plate has had several approx. 2" holes drilled around its perimeter.  And, as can be seen in the magazine pictures, the rear sub frame area has been cut off.  The bike looked very much as if it has been driven quite a bit.  The seat showed signs of smooth wear areas.

I spoke to the very nice young woman that was working behind the Cycle World product display counter about the display bike, our bikes in general, and the recent letters that Cycle World has published regarding the V.  I told her that there arn't a lot of us but that we are crazy.  She said that there a lot of groups like us.  Motorcycling being what it is, I'm not surprised.  Cheers.  John 3:16
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: Blake on November 12, 2005, 04:20:19 PM
whoa..  What?!?


Please someone elaborate.. i've been in the dark the past couple months with school..  is this a custom "chopper" with a vision engine?


I just looked on cycle world.. the show is coming to DC jan 14th.   If its going to be a regular part of the show i'll definately be there taking lots of pictures.



Blake
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: louthepou on November 13, 2005, 06:56:27 AM
I love the idea of drilling holes for the rear brake to cool down more easily. Any reason I shouldn't give that a try, anyone?

Thanks for the report, QBS,

Lou
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: Coil Coyle on November 13, 2005, 07:27:07 AM
Lou, your brakes won't work when wet, thats all.

coil
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: Kevin on November 13, 2005, 10:25:04 AM
the rotors are a stainless alloy, you will burn up many drillbits.Kevin C. 
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: louthepou on November 13, 2005, 10:35:17 AM
Thanks folks :)

Lou
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: QBS on November 13, 2005, 12:57:16 PM
The drum rear V brake doesn't get used enough to ever get so hot as to be rendered inoperative.  The front braking system is primary.  Cheers.
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: louthepou on November 13, 2005, 01:31:29 PM
Yeah, but it would match my front rotor!  ;D

(I've drilled it some 10 years ago)

Lou
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: Sable on November 13, 2005, 02:54:08 PM
I remember the post of this bike when the magazine came out. I still think it looks kinda cool in a "Mad Max" sort of way.
However, the link to the pic is bad on the original post. So, I happen to have saved a copy of the picture. Here it is:

(http://home.comcast.net/~slapshot1342/ChoppedVision.jpg)
~Sable

OK - I couldn't resist, I lowered the quality of the pic (down to 80.0 KB) so more people can check it out. Did I mention that I kinda like this bike?
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: silicon_toad2000 on November 13, 2005, 05:32:43 PM
thanks sable. I saw that pic before but I have been hanging for another sticky beak.
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: ps2/bikevision on November 14, 2005, 11:50:09 PM
all i got to say is who is doing the replucia and when do i get to ride it!
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: Lucky on November 15, 2005, 12:19:01 AM
last time we talked about the bike, most of us thought it was ugly, but to each his own..lol
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: Coil Coyle on November 15, 2005, 04:08:46 AM
Personally; In the context that this bike presents it, that sure is an ugly tank :P
$00.02
coil
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: supervision on November 15, 2005, 07:44:13 AM
   The thing strikes me as almost being dirt-track     
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: glennw on November 15, 2005, 08:36:23 AM
Just not my style I guess..... :-\
GlennW
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: VisionMeister on November 15, 2005, 11:53:09 AM
My opinion of Cycle World is that the Editor needs to go.
To much showboating of his own bikes and obvious pandering to the custom builders to include such a hack job in the show.
This from the same people that published their dislike or lack of knowledge of the Vision.
How smooth do you think the hack gets through its flat spot?
How well do you think the suspension and brakes work?
How long will its stator last?
If I remember right the bike was built by Jesse James and the article said it was the most fun to ride of the bikes he had in his stable.
What does that say about those other custom cruisers?
The Vision was far from perfect but it is a fun bike and worth owning and riding.
Damn the surge and shaft lurch and fork flex... Full speed ahead.
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: zore on November 15, 2005, 11:59:47 AM
Can some one scan the original article and the replies?  I'll host them if need be, I just don't get that particular mag.
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: Junior on November 15, 2005, 01:30:53 PM
Sable-Thanks for posting the pic. Looks like someones bad dream to me. I would have to park this in the back yard and plant hedges around it. Friends might see it and I ride with those guys.
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: Sable on November 15, 2005, 02:52:11 PM
I don't think this one was built by Jesse James... I had the magazine, but have misplaced it. I tried searching Cycleworld.com, but had no luck.? I, for one like it. I realize it's not everyone's "cup of tea", but I like things that are a little out of the ordinary. All of us have Visions, this one sure is just a little out of the ordinary ;D

~Sable
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: silicon_toad2000 on November 15, 2005, 04:11:19 PM
at least it shows imagination and is not some factory clone. Everything must be modified in some way to change it from the way it left the factory, if not its lame.
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: louthepou on November 15, 2005, 07:19:24 PM
Damn! A Vision uglier than mine!  ;D

Lou
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: ArrrGeee on November 15, 2005, 09:07:07 PM
yep, still as ugly as it was when they ran the picture last year...

http://ridersofvision.net/forum/index.php?topic=1023.0


-Ron

Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: jasonm. on November 16, 2005, 08:27:27 PM
the front brake rotor pictured is off an R6 or R1 or similar. Not a stock rotor that has been drilled.? I have that picture 3' from my desk. the guy who built it has the Jesse James attitude. "make it different, make it work"
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: louthepou on November 17, 2005, 11:38:28 AM
And how dare ye grind off the "Yamaha" on the thermostat housing! That's just plain rude.  ;D

Lou
Title: Re: Touched the Cycle World American Flyer Vision
Post by: vavision on November 17, 2005, 01:18:11 PM
I'd like to know more about the carb and airbox setup. If I could figure out something like that I could use that underseat spot as a nice little cubby to keep my Mcdonalds warm on the ride home from work.