The GTS listserv has had a recent discussion of the Stebel Nautilus Horn. Claimed 139dB! Should make even cell phone using Escalade / Navigator drivers take notice. ;D Not good for a quick "beep" type hello, though.
Check out the link: www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2137 (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2137)
Kind of glad I haven't ordered the 130dB Fiamms yet. Should fit up inside the fairing someplace. Not very big - especially for an air horn. The compressor is attached to the horn itself. Dimensions are 5.9" (150mm) x 4.4" (112mm) x 3.7" (95 mm).
H2O
that is awesome
this one is for your car!
http://www.siegeengine.com/auctions/horn/horn.mpg
I've got horns under my fairing fom a Ford Taurus, but you can use horns from any large car (Caddys or Lincolns are good choices)
You must add a relay though becuse the stock horns are switched on the ground side & if you try to use them straight off the horn button, you'll melt the spring behind the button (don't ask how i know this)
--Lucky
:) Take a look on eee-bay, under air horn's... ;)
Kwells:That would scare the fecal matter out of anyone! ;D
(should carry a defibrillator with you if you have one of those) :)
Cool. A pneumatic jackhammer is 130dB. a 10pt increase in dB represents almost a doubling in total sound so the horns are pretty darn loud.
;D
David
Quote from: kwells on March 17, 2007, 01:57:20 AM
that is awesome
this one is for your car!
http://www.siegeengine.com/auctions/horn/horn.mpg
I especially like the fact that you can see the effect of the soundwaves as they hit the camera. That, my friend, is a cool wave physics lab!
Lou
Holy Crap!!! If I accidently hit that it would probably knock me off the bike! A horn like that could get you shot in some places!
Mutt
Heard it can kill a squerril at 30 yds. ;D
Just kidding
Quote from: DaveTN on March 17, 2007, 10:46:13 PM
Heard it can kill a squerril at 30 yds. ;D
Just kidding
Probably will kill a squirel! I'll bet it will make a gald bladder go bad too!
Mutt :)
Quote from: Mutt on March 17, 2007, 11:02:19 PM
Quote from: DaveTN on March 17, 2007, 10:46:13 PM
Heard it can kill a squerril at 30 yds. ;D
Just kidding
Kinda like how they shatter kidney stones with sound waves. You may be onto something mutt. ;D
David
Probably will kill a squirel! I'll bet it will make a gald bladder go bad too!
Mutt :)
Anyone know if thats legal or not? Thinking i might get one for my teeny tiny xt250 dualsport :D
Quote from: DaveTN on March 17, 2007, 12:12:50 PM
Cool. A pneumatic jackhammer is 130dB. a 10pt increase in dB represents almost a doubling in total sound so the horns are pretty darn loud.
;D
David
Dave - I am a radio guy in the Air Force and what we were taught in our school is that every 3db increase the total output power doubles.
H2O - That is just insane. 139 decibles could cause some serious hearing damage. Is that thing even legal??
Quote from: dj on March 22, 2007, 11:21:16 AM
Dave - I am a radio guy in the Air Force and what we were taught in our school is that every 3db increase the total output power doubles.
H2O - That is just insane. 139 decibles could cause some serious hearing damage. Is that thing even legal??
3db is correct for a doubling in power. It's a logarithmic scale.
Brian
130-135 dB is the approximate dB level of our tanker's engines as they are taking off from the runway. :o The recommended exposure time for anything that loud is like 10-15 seconds! So anybody that has a horn like this make sure you don't have it on for too long, and don't sound it off in your garage!
Quote from: dj on March 22, 2007, 11:21:16 AM
Quote from: DaveTN on March 17, 2007, 12:12:50 PM
Cool. A pneumatic jackhammer is 130dB. a 10pt increase in dB represents almost a doubling in total sound so the horns are pretty darn loud.
;D
David
Dave - I am a radio guy in the Air Force and what we were taught in our school is that every 3db increase the total output power doubles.
H2O - That is just insane. 139 decibles could cause some serious hearing damage. Is that thing even legal??
I stand corrected. ;D ;d
I was digging back to my early car stereo days in the 80's and early 90's and all the "SPL" contests I entered. Musthave squished a few memory cells in the old noodle. ;D
David
Not sure if I am doing this right, I am medicated (bronchitis) so I am a little bit foggy headed but here goes.
0dB is equal to 1mW (.001 Watts) of power, and at 138dB the equivalent power level is 70,368,744,177.664 Watts. That is quite a jump in power level. :o
PS - if there is anyone who knows if I am doing this wrong please feel free to correct me. ;)
79,432,823,472,428.2 watts for 139
ahh physics
The horn has dropped down the list of purchases for now, but I will likely get one sometime this summer. Don't care about the legality, I just want the idiots in their air conditioned cages with the cell phone glued to their ear to know they did something stupid. I don't use the horn very often, but when I do, I want to be heard. This horn takes up less room than a pair of FIAMM Freeway blasters & is 9dB louder. What the heck, I normally ride with earplugs anyway. ;D
H2O
don't point it at the ground, you might lift off.
Quote from: Vision Rising on March 22, 2007, 06:54:19 PM
don't point it at the ground, you might lift off.
Yeah - after I lose about 30 pounds. ::) ;D
How about pointing it toward the rear for jet propulsion?
H
2O
h2olawyer, did you end up getting the Stebel? Or something else like the Fiamms? Care to share some feedback? I'm horn shopping.
Also, for those that have done the relay mod.. Are you using the stock power lead and fuse off the fuseblock for power direct to the horn, and then putting the ground, on the relay to the frame? So the ground is still what's switched/relayed/upgraded? Or are you also upgrading the power wire and fuse?
There are two versions of this - One is labelled "motorcycle" and has better sealing.
Here it is mounted by drilling a single hole in the headlight bracket and the fairing just slips on with about 5mm clearance.
You need to wire a relay, or say goodbye to your horn switch in about 5 seconds.
It's a seriously good horn. It doesn't stop people pulling front of you, but is great for telling them off. They literally shit their pants, especially because my white bike/helmet looks kind of like a police bike.
(http://sites.google.com/site/rsimonnz/xzpictures/StebelHorn.jpg)
Quote from: roro on May 01, 2012, 03:42:10 PM
There are two versions of this - One is labelled "motorcycle" and has better sealing.
Here it is mounted by drilling a single hole in the headlight bracket and the fairing just slips on with about 5mm clearance.
You need to wire a relay, or say goodbye to your horn switch in about 5 seconds.
It's a seriously good horn. It doesn't stop people pulling front of you, but is great for telling them off. They literally shit their pants, especially because my white bike/helmet looks kind of like a police bike.
Awesome thanks roro. I'm assuming you used a relay with it right? Can I ask how you wired it? Since the switch switches the ground stock, I'm assuming you used the switched side to switch the relay right and used the stock switch? And then the relay is cutting "ground" to the horn? Did you run a new ground then? Did you use the stock power wire and fuse then? That's the relay you used above the horn right? Thanks!
I made comments , long ago about the futility of honking a bike horn. Other visionaries pointed out several options . A couple of years ago Harbor freight began selling a neat pair of horns , listed at 110 db. (the stock horn on a VX are listed as 105 db) These are easily twice as loud as the stockers. I bought a set for the Vision too ! $9.95 each set. They come with the relay and some wire.
I was proceeding up Andy Devine / route 66 in Kingman, shortly after installing them , when a woman in a caddy , on a cell phone , with her head completely where the sun don't shine, proceeded to change lanes and try to run me over! I sounded my new horns , which are mounted on either side of the head light, causing her to veer to the right and bounce off the curb!! What a wonderful experience for me!!. I've been run off the road for 50 years by idiots in cages, so I felt elated.
Quote from: Protonus on May 01, 2012, 06:52:38 PM
Quote from: roro on May 01, 2012, 03:42:10 PM
There are two versions of this - One is labelled "motorcycle" and has better sealing.
Here it is mounted by drilling a single hole in the headlight bracket and the fairing just slips on with about 5mm clearance.
You need to wire a relay, or say goodbye to your horn switch in about 5 seconds.
It's a seriously good horn. It doesn't stop people pulling front of you, but is great for telling them off. They literally shit their pants, especially because my white bike/helmet looks kind of like a police bike.
Awesome thanks roro. I'm assuming you used a relay with it right? Can I ask how you wired it? Since the switch switches the ground stock, I'm assuming you used the switched side to switch the relay right and used the stock switch? And then the relay is cutting "ground" to the horn? Did you run a new ground then? Did you use the stock power wire and fuse then? That's the relay you used above the horn right? Thanks!
Yes, you can see the relay in the picture with the neon green wired going into it. It's the relay that comes with the horn. Basically plug the horn wires into the relay which gives it a trigger voltage, then an independent Live back to the battery via a new fuse (there was a spare slot in my fusebox), and earth to frame. Fairly straight forward, and there is a circuit sheet with the horn as well. All you will need some 2.5mm cable a crimper and some ends, and a fuse. Mine are all soldered as well, as is every connector on the bike. The relay is attached with the dashboard bolt. the hor bolt comes with it, and just needs a neat hole drilled in the dead centre of the headlight bracket. I test fitted it using gaffer tape first to be sure there was enough clearance once the fairing went back on.
Quote from: Rick G on May 01, 2012, 07:56:07 PM
I was proceeding up Andy Devine / route 66 in Kingman, shortly after installing them , when a woman in a caddy , on a cell phone , with her head completely where the sun don't shine, proceeded to change lanes and try to run me over! I sounded my new horns , which are mounted on either side of the head light, causing her to veer to the right and bounce off the curb!! What a wondeful experience for me!!. I've been run off the road for 50 years by idiots in cages, so I felt elated.
:laugh: :laugh: I love it and can totally relate.
I have a pair of horns from an older Ford Taurus under my fairing. low & loud! :>