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Title: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: ProfessorRex on April 28, 2007, 10:39:20 PM
I finally got my '83 back on Friday, so here's some photos with captions of her and her '82 organ donor friend that Mark in Opelousas gave me.  Enjoy. (as most of you know, I was hit on my bike by a car last October...etc...etc)

I wont be using everything that I've acquired, so lots of parts will be available once I figure out exactly what I need.  Feel free to ask if you see something you want, or ask even if you don't see it, I've got a whole box of various stuff that didn't make it into the photos.


THE '83 (captions below each picture)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/AlexRexR/DSC01928.jpg)
- Broken but still a beauty.  The fairing frame appears to be bent, maybe broken, not sure yet.  The radiator was punctured.  Frame, and forks appear to be OK.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/AlexRexR/DSC01931.jpg)
- Cracked the side case, and the block itself.... ouch my leg

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/AlexRexR/DSC01932.jpg)
- Left Side View, tank dented but not leaking, bent shifter, bent footpeg, broken fairing mount, obviously missing faring piece

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/AlexRexR/DSC01933.jpg)
- Right Rear, look at the mangled exhaust!, NO RUST! what a shame!  Also notice the shattered aluminum peg mount, that guy hit me hard! Bent brake pedal, bent foot pegs.


THE '82


(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/AlexRexR/DSC01920.jpg)
- Rust, dust corrosion, all soon to be goners.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/AlexRexR/DSC01921.jpg)
- Fork brace, brand new tires, and stainless '82 brake line.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/AlexRexR/DSC01922.jpg)
- Engine, check; bulk pack of aluminum polish, check; elbow grease, check.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/AlexRexR/DSC01923.jpg)
- Fairing pieces, additional tank, SHARK FAIRING w/mounts (but no glass) and my Portuguese Water Dog "Sugar".

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/AlexRexR/DSC01925.jpg)
- SHARK FAIRING

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/AlexRexR/DSC01926.jpg)
- There are lots of NOS pieces like this fairing leg vent.  Brake lines, clutch cable, OEM NOS '83 Sticker Kit!

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/AlexRexR/DSC01938.jpg)
- The nicer of the two '82 tanks on the parts bike, in good shape, small dent on the side.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/AlexRexR/DSC01937.jpg)
- Very little rust!
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: Lucky on April 28, 2007, 10:46:33 PM
looks like everything you need to get back on the road, just add time   :)
--Lucky
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: packman85 on April 28, 2007, 11:14:33 PM
Looks like a project, just add time and it will be like new.

Was wondering about the exhaust on the donor bike, is it a mac?  Either way, if its solid, just surface rust, and youre not going to use it, Im interested.  Also, the shark fairing, im interested in that as well, Thanks, let me know if you could.
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: Tiger on April 29, 2007, 07:51:15 AM
8) Meester, how mooch for zee pooch...U take top $$$ for doggy, eh ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D...  ;)

8) Great to see you have the part's to re-build your "V"...elbow grease and time are the two biggest element's your going to need. Those MAC's on the donor "V" will clean up really well...have them bead/sand blasted, inside and out, then repaint with a good high heat paint, they will look as good as new.
BTW...How is your healing process going ??? ???

                                 
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: MotorPlow on April 29, 2007, 09:45:12 AM
PR,
I am looking for Fairing Mirrors. Got any extras?
(Oh, and I am also looking for a Tachometer. Got one 'o those? - I was just out bid on eBad.)

~MotorPlow
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: munkyfistfight on April 29, 2007, 05:09:53 PM
Anyone got a Front Brake Master Cylinder? The one I bought was rusted through pretty badly.
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: YellowJacket! on April 29, 2007, 05:37:23 PM
Quote from: MotorPlow on April 29, 2007, 09:45:12 AM
PR,
I am looking for Fairing Mirrors. Got any extras?
(Oh, and I am also looking for a Tachometer. Got one 'o those? - I was just out bid on eBad.)

~MotorPlow

I may have one from when I rebuilt mine.  I'll check and then PM you.

David

Update: Got One.  ;D  Check your PM's

David
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: Lucky on April 29, 2007, 08:53:21 PM
Quote from: munkyfistfight on April 29, 2007, 05:09:53 PM
Anyone got a Front Brake Master Cylinder? The one I bought was rusted through pretty badly.

nope, & i just sold the rear one...

(sorry, i know that doesn't help, but i couldn't resist...)
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: Kevin on April 29, 2007, 09:53:18 PM
If the only crack on the motor is at the bolt boss in the picture, that is very repairable. 
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: inanecathode on April 29, 2007, 10:16:31 PM
Quote from: Kevin on April 29, 2007, 09:53:18 PM
If the only crack on the motor is at the bolt boss in the picture, that is very repairable. 

Look up and to the left of that crack in the middle, theres a chunk coming out of the block :(
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: ProfessorRex on April 30, 2007, 12:16:10 AM
packman, I don't think I can repair the original '83 exhaust (darn shame! they are rust free!) so I will be using the macs.

Tiger, ONE MILLION DOLLARS for the dog! or if you you catch me after she poops in my kitchen again I'll pay you!  And I'm healing slowly but surely, thanks for asking.

MotorP, no dice on fairing mirrors, two on the original are broken, and only two came with the parts bike.  If I come across one in any of my boxes o' goodies you'll be the first to know.  I have an extra tac, PM me if you still need it.

Monkey, the master cyl on the parts bike won't be needed, I'm not sure of it's condition.  I'll check tom, PM me if you need it.

Kevin, I don't think the damage is repairable, my plan is to dissect both motors and put the block and side cover from the parts bike with the internals and everything else from the '83.  If the big chip is repairable, please let me know how.  It'd save me SERIOUS time!
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: Brian Moffet on April 30, 2007, 12:50:48 AM
If you have and are willing to give up a gold headlight ring, let me know. Mine's in bad shape (corroded and such.)  But, only if you really don't need it. I'd rather see it back on your bike, and you riding again.

Brian
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: ProfessorRex on April 30, 2007, 01:08:31 AM
Brian, as of right now I'm keeping it.  If that changes I'll let you know.

On another note, I've spent some time looking at the crack in the crank case, and I really do think it's repairable.  I might be back on the road sooner than I thought!
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: Coil Coyle on April 30, 2007, 03:08:24 AM
Quote from: ProfessorRex on April 30, 2007, 01:08:31 AM
On another note, I've spent some time looking at the crack in the crank case, and I really do think it's repairable.  I might be back on the road sooner than I thought!

Crankcase cracks can be repaired with Epoxy Putty. I've done several. Coarse abrasive on the beveled edges of the break and clean, clean.

$0.02
;)
Coil
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: MotorPlow on April 30, 2007, 12:57:32 PM
Quote from: ProfessorRex on April 30, 2007, 12:16:10 AM
MotorP, no dice on fairing mirrors, two on the original are broken, and only two came with the parts bike.  If I come across one in any of my boxes o' goodies you'll be the first to know.  I have an extra tac, PM me if you still need it.

Thanx, I appreciate it.
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: ProfessorRex on April 30, 2007, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: coilXZcoyle on April 30, 2007, 03:08:24 AM
Crankcase cracks can be repaired with Epoxy Putty. I've done several. Coarse abrasive on the beveled edges of the break and clean, clean.

Yep, I'm thinking a little JB-Weld and all should be good to go.

Kevin, Thanks for suggesting that I try to repair it.  I was all set to pull the engine apart and all kinds of non-sense.  I hadn't even given repair a thought!
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: Night Vision on April 30, 2007, 06:51:18 PM
for whatever it's worth: I saw this infomercial on TV a couple of months ago that had these "welding sticks"

basically, they were applied like solder: heating the part to be repaired with a propane torch and adding this material that came in a stick form. you could then grind it or tap it....

one of the demos showed repairing a hole in a canoe so I guess it works on aluminum too... don't see many cast iron or sheet metal canoes...

I wasn't going to mention it because it's a little pricey... but you seem pretty set on repairing the case so I thought I'd throw this out there

http://durafix.com/
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: BREWSKI on April 30, 2007, 07:40:03 PM



        RE: JB weld, I had occasion to call them with a tech question about heat resistance.Their answer 600deg<fyi  Brewski....
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: YellowJacket! on April 30, 2007, 07:46:39 PM
Quote from: Night Vision on April 30, 2007, 06:51:18 PM
for whatever it's worth: I saw this infomercial on TV a couple of months ago that had these "welding sticks"

basically, they were applied like solder: heating the part to be repaired with a propane torch and adding this material that came in a stick form. you could then grind it or tap it....

one of the demos showed repairing a hole in a canoe so I guess it works on aluminum too... don't see many cast iron or sheet metal canoes...

I wasn't going to mention it because it's a little pricey... but you seem pretty set on repairing the case so I thought I'd throw this out there

http://durafix.com/

I'd be a bit leery about some of it melting into the case and gumming something up.

just my 0.02

David
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: Lucky on April 30, 2007, 08:18:42 PM
i'm more worried about bits of the case from the crash in there...
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: Tiger on April 30, 2007, 08:39:53 PM
:) Prof', if your interested, I can send you a couple of rod's to do the repair. They are made for repairing engine block's, cylinder head's, transmission case's, all sorts of aluminum equipment... 8)

                   
8).......TIGER....... 8)
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: ProfessorRex on April 30, 2007, 08:49:17 PM
I've worked with brazing rods before, and it's definitely the best method.  The problem is I have no use for 50 rods of the stuff, I need 1/10 of one stick MAX so I'm not going that way.  JB weld is an incredible product, welding uses heat and welding rod to create a molecular bond between two pieces of metal; JB weld creates a chemical bond that is surprisingly strong.  I've worked with it before and have always been impressed.

Quote from: DaveTN on April 30, 2007, 07:46:39 PM
I'd be a bit leery about some of it melting into the case and gumming something up.

The working temp for that particular alloy rod is near 750*!  If my vision side cases get that hot I think I'll be in serious trouble LONG before any potential weld!  The melt temp for fully cured JB weld is over 600* again, I'd have trouble long before the JB weld failed!

Quote from: Lucky on April 30, 2007, 08:18:42 PM
i'm more worried about bits of the case from the crash in there...

I will be pulling the side cover off and very carefully checking everything.  If it turns out unrepairable, I can always swap the crank case from the spare engine. 

Thankfully I won't loose anything by trying to fix it.  As it sits right now the crankcase is tanked.  If the repair works super, if not it's still tanked.  No worries.
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: ProfessorRex on April 30, 2007, 08:51:26 PM
Quote from: Tiger on April 30, 2007, 08:39:53 PM
:) Prof', if your interested, I can send you a couple of rod's to do the repair. They are made for repairing engine block's, cylinder head's, transmission case's, all sorts of aluminum equipment... 8)

Well, while I was typing my guardian angel Tiger came through!  I may take you up on that offer, I'll have time to get the side cover off on Wed. and evaluate further then. THANKS!
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: Lucky on April 30, 2007, 10:32:08 PM
Rex, if the engine is toast i might be interested in it to do the 'cut-away' engine i talked about last winter.

hey i was going to take a trip down there anyway to get your bike from Mark before i decided to give it to you anyway...one of you guys owes me an authentic Cajun meal, lol

--Lucky
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: ProfessorRex on May 01, 2007, 01:16:14 AM
Well lucky, I will definitely have A LOT of extra parts lying around after all is said and done.  I'm sure I'll have everything you'd need for a cutaway engine.  I'll know by the end of the week what I'm using and what I'm not.
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: Scott_Mc on May 04, 2007, 07:52:05 AM
Professor Rex, Dude what the heck hit you, a train?  Yikes!  do you have a thread here from when this happened?  I hope you are back to 100% healthy 8) Given your actions to fix up your sweet `83 I'd have to guess you are doing well!

On the factory exhaust, maybe a silly idea but it's so nice it would stink to junk it.  Could the end of the exhaust be cut off somehow creating a shorter baffle?  Only the end is trashed.  Just a thought.


Quote from: Lucky on April 30, 2007, 08:18:42 PM
i'm more worried about bits of the case from the crash in there...
I agree here.  I'll admit I see the crack in the cover and block but do not see the chunk missing.  Be sure to change the oil.  Is there a good welding shop in the area?  IMHO a nice TIG weld would be the best fix.  Any part you can save from your black beauty is sure to save you a bunch of time with all the resto work needed to make the parts bike's parts match. 
Title: Re: My Crashed '83, and the '82 parts bike LOTS OF PICTURES
Post by: ProfessorRex on May 04, 2007, 03:45:44 PM
Quote from: Scott_Mc on May 04, 2007, 07:52:05 AM
Professor Rex, Dude what the heck hit you, a train?  Yikes!  do you have a thread here from when this happened?

Yes I do
The accident: http://ridersofvision.net/forum/xzindex.php?topic=5488.0
and the surgery: http://ridersofvision.net/forum/xzindex.php?topic=5574.msg47228#msg47228

I'm back to about 50%

Quote from: Scott_Mc on May 04, 2007, 07:52:05 AM
On the factory exhaust, maybe a silly idea but it's so nice it would stink to junk it.  Could the end of the exhaust be cut off somehow creating a shorter baffle?  Only the end is trashed.  Just a thought.

I know SUCH A SHAME!  I'm going to try to do something with it, but it's more damaged than the pictures show.