Riders Of Vision

 :) I started this thread this morning and then.......it vanished!!! I've no idea why or how, so don't ask :o

I found "number 7", not 20 minutes away from were I live ::) Another been sitting in the dark for several year's '82, black, naked and in need of some T.L.C. Vision...I think we all get the picture ;D :D :D :D :D :D... ;) Run's, sort of... :-\ Comes with a clear title though 8) So it looks like I have another winter project...just gotta find some way to tell the wife, again ;)

                                 

like I said this morning...... "this one's for you honey"  ;)

Quote from: Night Vision on September 14, 2007, 11:37:44 PM
..... "this one's for you honey"  ;)

Tried that with, (#5), "The Black Panther", (last winter's project), and (#6), "The Canadian" my '83 that is almost complete ::) :D :D :D :D :D :D

                     

Quote from: Tiger on September 15, 2007, 07:46:18 AM

Quote from: Night Vision on September 14, 2007, 11:37:44 PM
..... "this one's for you honey"  ;)

Tried that with, (#5), "The Black Panther", (last winter's project), and (#6), "The Canadian" my '83 that is almost complete ::) :D :D :D :D :D :D

then how 'bout...... "geez honey, you got the last 2, this one's for me!"  :D :D
;D

Tiger s saving the world.  On Vision at a time.  ;D

David

Quote from: DaveTN on September 15, 2007, 10:20:51 AM
Tiger s saving the world.  On Vision at a time.  ;D

David

8) I'm just trying to help the owner's of these discarded Vision's... 8) Its like.......a form of therapy I give these people...sort of a way to make them smile, once again. I give them some money...and they always smile ::)  ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

             

I just mentioned to my wife that you just bought your seventh Vision, she then asked if you are married, I said "Not for much longer!" lol!!

Tiger just wants to make sure there are more Canadin visions than American Visions. Next he's taking on the Germans....

lol,,,, tiger says   "VE haff vays of makink you vork!"     never mind, never could type with an accent ,,,,,

Quote from: kiawrench on September 16, 2007, 01:11:39 PM
lol,,,, tiger says   "VE haff vays of makink you vork!"     never mind, never could type with an accent ,,,,,

;D Vee vont nine, nine or should that be ya... :o ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

                         

I don't need another one! I've had mine for almost a year, and its still not on the road yet. Its tough to work on a bike when you don't have a garage and I'm in TX so its raining all the time. I can't imagine having that many "projects."

 :) Just to clarify...I don't actually have 7 Vision's sitting in my garage ::) At present I do have "The Mistress", (#1), Which is an '82 and my "rider" as well as "The Canadian", (#6), an '83, which only need the carbs stripped, cleaned & rebuilt, are on premises.
I intend to take "The Mistress" off the road come season end, to do some needed T.L.C. My intention is to put "The Canadian" back on the road, for the first time in Eight'ish year's, and ride her for the '08 season.
 
#7 will be here this week and will be my winter project, again, once the season is over. Once she is road ready and "Christened" I intend to sell her to a new keeper. This is what I did last year with "The Black Panther" project. Lil'Blaster, "The Black Panther's" new owner, is having a load of fun with her. He came to the OnROV spring ride, Wolf's OnROV summer ride in Sarnia and Night_Vision's "Can-Am" ride in Syracuse a couple of week's ago 8) 8) 8)...If I could only get him to learn about computer's we would have another "registered" member ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

Vision's 2,3 & 4 have all been donor bike's, that part's have helped keep mine and other Vision's alive.

So, if any-one is looking for a sweet wee ride for next season...Let me know ;D :D :D :D :D :D... 8)

                           

I'm always looking, but the wife doesn't let me buy very often.  I have 2 already and only one is on the road.  Black Beauty was a heck of a deal for only 250 dollars and I've already put around 500 miles on her in the short time that I've had her.  Once I get the petcock issue straightened out I'll put some more miles on her.

I'd love to have one of the Saved-by-Tiger bikes, but I have been saving up my pennies that I get to keep after my wife spends all my paycheck.  I'm working on getting a belt grinder for my knife making "hobby" that I do.  I have over 5K coming in by the end of the month (reenlistment bonus) and I am trying to get the 600 dollars that I need for the belt grinder worked into the budget before Sarah spends all of that money too.  ::)

I too spend far more money on my myriad of other hobbies (boats, guns and drinking; never at the same time, of course) I just bought an M-1 Garand and blew $80 on ammo for a range day so I need to save up before another bike hits the list.

Quote from: ColinthePilot on September 17, 2007, 04:11:24 PM
I too spend far more money on my myriad of other hobbies (boats, guns and drinking; never at the same time, of course) I just bought an M-1 Garand and blew $80 on ammo for a range day so I need to save up before another bike hits the list.

My three hobbies that I spend money on (when my wife lets me  :-[): blacksmithing/bladesmithing (I've got several knifes that I can't finish until I get my belt grinder  >:(), my gaming computer w/lots of games (I build all my own rigs, YES I AM A CARD CARRYING COMPUTER NERD  8)), and my V's.

as far as getting the vision tiger you could do as my dad does when he buys another bike or four wheeler... not tell my mom because theres so many that she just doesnt notice... or u could bring the bike home and say look at my new toy...

 :) The "boss" says to me this morning...
"So, when where you gonna tell me about the Vision"... ???
"What Vision" say's I, with a grin... ;D
"The "NEW" one" says she >:(
"Awwww, Thaaat one" says I walking away..."Eventually" ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

;D All is well in the Tiger's den. I wonder how many lives this cat still has... :o ;D :D :D :D :D

                       

 :) dj...Re: "I'd love to have one of the Saved-by-Tiger bikes, but"...If you, or anyone, want's their "V"'s "worked on" I have no problem's with that. All you have to do is bring her over the border, leave her with me for a time and I'll Git er done for you... 8)

                 

Quote from: Tiger on September 18, 2007, 07:29:04 AM
:) dj...Re: "I'd love to have one of the Saved-by-Tiger bikes, but"...If you, or anyone, want's their "V"'s "worked on" I have no problem's with that. All you have to do is bring her over the border, leave her with me for a time and I'll Git er done for you... 8)

                 

8).......TIGER....... 8)

Let me get a price quote and I'll run it by the "boss".  ;)  Very tempting Tiger.  I saw what you did with Black Panther and I was really bummed for about a month that I couldn't get a deal worked out for her (the "boss" kept saying not right now and wouldn't budge).  She is a great looking bike.

Quote from: Tiger on September 18, 2007, 06:49:26 AM

;D All is well in the Tiger's den. I wonder how many lives this cat still has... :o ;D :D :D :D :D

9-7=2 looks like you can get 1 more and still live to ride / ride to live  ;D

 
             

...Dragged her from the corner of a dark, dingy hole she has called home for several year's, unclean, unloved, looking very sad and neglected...Have we heard this story before boy's 'n girlies
::) ;D... ;)

She is now sitting in a warm garage between her two sister's..."The Mistress" & "The Canadian"...and actually looks a wee bit better now ;D ;D :D :D :D :D... ;)

Her full medical assesment will start tomorrow morning...For now, she can rest up after such a truamatic day ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D... 8).

                   

 :) Well, didn't get a lot done to #7... ::) Friday night the wee woman decides that we should go to Niagara Falls, New York on Saturday to do some shopping and go to our fav' eating house for a steak 'n fixin's ;D No complaint's from me ;D ;D :D :D :D... ;)

Sunday I went with a couple of the boy's to a vintage motorcycle swap meet and a wee ride afterward's... 8) Got back mid afternoon, parked the "V" and did a few chore's.

I decided that, before the sun went down #7 had to have a wash down :o She was filthy... ::)

Out came the "chemical tray" and the pressure washer. Soaked her from top to bottom, back to front in a degreaser/cleaner and pressure washed her down, then washed her down with a soap/water solution and pressure washed her down again...WOW!!! she doesn't look half as bad with all that dirt and grime gone... 8) Wiped her down and put her back into the garage as the sun went down on another day :(

She appears to be complete... 8) MAC exhaust system still has the decal on the top muffler!!! All the plastics are there and intact, clutch works, Brakes work, etc,
However...Tires have great tread but are cracked, battery is toast, gas tank has a leak, (Yet to check), Carb's, as we all know, will have to come off and be cleaned. The left side cover will come off so I can check everything out in there... ;)

All said and done, so far, I'm pleased with what I have acquired... 8) I also have two parties interested in her already... 8) Hmmmmm, by N_V's reckoning, I still have one life left :o ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

                           

                         

Quote from: Tiger on September 30, 2007, 08:15:15 PM

All said and done, so far, I'm pleased with what I have acquired... 8) I also have two parties interested in her already... 8) Hmmmmm, by N_V's reckoning, I still have one life left  :o ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

it's been said before:  save the best ........... for last  ;D

Tiger, i've always been taught ( i've seen it in one of the manuals i think too) that you NEVER use high pressure water on a bike. there are seals that are not protected (like the wheel bearings) like they are on a car

 :) Lucky...As a general rule of thumb, I would agree with you.
However, as this is a resto' project, ALL part's need to be cleaned prior to strip down. This will make stripping/handling/assesment much easier. All bearing's will be cleaned, checked and re-greased or replaced, depending on wear & tear ;) All the electrical conn's have to be cleaned/replaced/hard wired in, etc, etc.
It is the process that I have used for many year's and have done so with NO adverse effect's on all my vehicle's, including all of my Vision's...but I will say that misuse of a high pressure washer can cause all sort's of problem's on a motorcycle...reader's be warned :o ;D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

                     

Quote from: Night Vision on September 30, 2007, 08:49:56 PM

Quote from: Tiger on September 30, 2007, 08:15:15 PM

I still have one life left  :o ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

it's been said before:  save the best ........... for last  ;D

:-[ Oooooop's, bad math... 9 - 7 = TWO  :-[...Whahooooooo, two more to come, before the divorce paper's :o :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

...errrr' what was that dear, yes dear, no problem, I'll get onto the honey do list right away dear... ;D :D :D :D :D

                                   

I was going to start a new thread, but this one seeemed to touch on it somewhat. My musings are the result of a observant yet off kilter mind so bear with me.
It always pains me when I here a guy say " I would ,could if the wife ,other half let's me". I always retreat into my head and think.. She didn't realize the strength of the addiction when she married you???
So now she puts the brakes on your pleasure. At least your not a drunk, drug addicted, cheatin sob. Yet I rarely, if ever here women say essentially the same thing about their hobby/vice.
I mean you spend 500-700 dollars on a bike that needs a little tlc and keeps you putzing around in the garage. It's not like you spend that every month, I know, I know, some of you do, and kudos to you and yours. the rest of us do it once/twice a year . Fix it, clean it, show it some love and it rewards us with that sweet sound when you hit the starter or the kicker. We have created something and it is good. It gives one joy.
So I hear a guy say The Statement and I ask him,  Why not, will she leave you or divorce you? Usually get a shrug and a, well no but she can get bitchy, or my all time favorite, she won't talk to me. Dude if thats all it takes to get her to not talk to you well, you get my drift.
A lot of times these guys make the really big bucks so I just can't fathom why the Mrs. would not allow him to enjoy his free time doing something he loves. For crying out loud they bust there hump all friggin day. Let the dude relax, and zen out while he's working on his latest creation he'll live longer. I have some thoughts as to why this is so but they aren't ever positive. Especially when you see the look in his eyes. Talk about painful to see.
So Tiger,Kudos to the new aquisition. If the Mrs is cool you have scored a good one, she understands.
I thank God for my wife. She realized early on I am an addict. My friends wifes just cluck cluck and give me "the look", you guys know what I mean.
dcsob
XZ550,XV750,XV920euro,3 XS650's,TX650,T120,Ural B/C with side car, XZ550/920 franken bike in progress

 :) My "old girl" is as good as gold really. I had her in the garage tonight givin' me a hand to bleed the front brake off... :o ;) but I do get your drift ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D.. :P

...as for #7, I cut out the original fuse box, which was actually in good condition, but it had to go. As with all the "V"s, I replaced it with seperate in line blade fuse holder's/fuses, including the one in the headlight for the rad' fan. All are hard wired in using butt conn's that use semi translucent shrink tube that has an adhesive on the inside AND contains a solder ring in the center...Put your two wire's in, shrink down, put heat on the solder ring till it melts, (low heat solder), and your done. Seals moisture out with a soldered joint...cool, eh!!! (Just another of the product's that I sell ;) ).

I made up a new battery to motor ground wire, using 6Ga cable. Soldered and shrink tubed the connection's... 8)

Bleed off the front brake...works well... :D :D :D... ;)

According to the guy I bought her off, he said "The gas tank leak's...badly, gas just pour's out...it has been lined, but still leak's"... ::) Anyway, the petcock was in a box of odd's 'n end's, so I refitted it to the tank and dumped a gallon of fresh gas into it.......Leak's alright, not the tank thankfully 8) but the petcock, it just spews out gas from all over!!! Doesn't matter which way you set it...run/prime/reserve, it run's out...as well as every joint/seal. I'll buy a rebuild kit from sirius, as I'm up there way this week.

Pulled the spark plugs out...they are sooooooo shot, byebye, buy ;) I'll get new wire's/cap's/plug's for her, as normal... 8)

The air filter is new 'ish, however, it is for an earlier '82 without the vacuum assist ::) I'll get the Fram #3903 from Walmart and do a custom filter... 8)

Well thats enough for tonight...Time for a beer, I think...Cheer's ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

                     

 :) Today I picked up,from Sirius, a petcock repair kit and a set of exhaust gasket's, from a local bike shop I got a yard of premium plug lead/cap's/plug's... 8)

Tonight I stripped the petcock down... ::)...everything inside from the "O" ring, that sit's in the run/prime/reserve lever, to the diaphram was completely shot and I mean shot. Not suprising that gas leaked out all over the thing ::) The inside was also full of white oxidised crud...So I scrubed it seriously clean and rebuilt the unit. Before the strip down, there was no "friction" when you turned the lever to run/prime/reserve...there is now ;)
Once stripped/cleaned/rebuilt, I reconnected it to the gas tank. I used a wee smear of red silicone to make sure the seal is tight... 8) I've left it to cure and will put gas into the tank again tomorrow to make sure all is completely sealed.

I connected the new plug cap's to the wire's and installed the spark plug's. I'll connect up tomorrow night...remembering to clean the ground wire at the left coil frame connection  ;)

Thats it for tonight...no hurry ;D :D :D :D :D... ;) Time for a wobbley pop...cheer's 8)

                           

so where's the pics?  ??? show me yours and I'll show you mine  ;)

Actually, MY XZ is in a similar sit as the one that you just picked up.  It's out in Colorado Springs, running gear is sitting on the sidestand in a 10X20 storage unit with a radial arm saw to port and a bandsaw to starboard.  All of the plastics are in a very large box and in the 10X10 behind the first one, up on a shelf to port of the 2 XS850's in various states of disassembly and the completely disassembled GS750 below the box.  The Vision is naked, with the carbs in the 10X in another box.

About pressure washing, whenever I am about to do anything major to any of my vehicles, I take the wand in hand and hose it down.  If that is going to be taken part and most of the pieces renewed (replaced, cleaned, repacked) anyway, a little water won't hurt it in the long run.  I can't imagine what the front end rebuild on my Exploder would've  been like if I:
1) hadn't pressure cleaned the left and right wheel wells, steering linkage and knuckles, and front I-beams and pumpkin.
&
2) hadn't applied copious amount of penetrating oil to all of the nuts and bolts that would need removed.

I'll likely take the wand to Brandi before I tackle the valve adjustment.  Gonna try black RTV in place of the valve gasket this time...   ;)  And I'll be putting fresh oil and filter on in the process.

Ya know, there weren't that many Vision made in the first place, and that means there may not be a huge number left, so what Tiger does is all goodness.   ;D  I've seen more Visions in boneyards than any other place, but I hope to change that before too long.

Quote from: ironb12s on October 03, 2007, 03:12:26 PM

Gonna try black RTV in place of the valve gasket this time...   ;)  that might be a little difficult with the half moons... there are some new ones on ebay that are reasonable

Naw, go right over the halfies, taken off of the old gasket.  I'll report back with findings next week...probably get to the task this Sunday or next Monday.

 :) WhaHoooooooooooo, She's alive, she's alive, she lives again...  8) Jump started her from the car battery. It took a wee bit of coaxing, seeing the fuel pump/carb's where bone dry...but after a couple or so mis-start's, she eventually fired up. Adjusted the idle, once she was off choke and she purred at 1300 r.p.m. real sweet...and with the MAC's, she grrrrrrrowl's real nice when you wind on the throttle :o ;D :D :D :D :D :D
I rebuilt the petcock, however, she still runs gas no matter which way the lever point's...I think I need another one...Anybody have an '82 petcock for sale/trade ??? ???

                       

Quote from: Night Vision on October 02, 2007, 09:55:48 PM
so where's the pics?  ??? show me yours and I'll show you mine  ;)

::) Having camera problem's, at present... ::) but I will send you some to post, soon.

                           

 :) I can't keep calling her #7, sooooooo...She's black, wear's a MAC system and must be a cat orientated name...Any worthy (clean!!!) suggestion's please :-\

                     
Last years winter project, a black '82, was "christened"..."The Black Panther"... ;)

I'm running out of names for ya.... but here's two

gato negro

or.......

黒い猫   ;D

Slap a white stripe on her tank & call her "Polecat".   ;D

Or, how 'bout "Natasha" (Kinsky).  Anyone remember "Cat People"?

H₂O

Quote from: h2olawyer on October 04, 2007, 07:26:03 PM

Slap a white stripe on her tank & call her "Polecat".   ;D

superb  :D

Quote from: h2olawyer on October 04, 2007, 07:26:03 PM
Slap a white stripe on her tank & call her "Polecat".   ;D
H₂O

...errrr, NO!!! ;D :D :D :D :D :D

                           

cat scratch fever? cat scratch? Ted?..  ::)

  I'll say this, for me it's much easier to bring home project bikes, than it is to work on them.  It's a weakness of mine for sure.  I can say that I'm trying to get a handle on it.  Most of my collection sits their doing nothing, while my primary rider's keep me busy, riding and maintaining them.  Also, the space that these rarely touched bikes take, could be free'ed  up for other uses.  Looking back I wish I would have been better at grabbing something, work it over, sell it, go on to the next one.  Like my car friend says, don't fall in love with the inventory, and always be ready to sell something, it will let you buy something, you haven't had.

for some reason, I find them easier to take apart, then to put back together  :-\

Quote from: Lucky on October 05, 2007, 10:57:30 PM
cat scratch fever? cat scratch? Ted?..  ::)

...Nugent...and NO!!! ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D, but thats music to my ear's :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Quote from: supervision on October 06, 2007, 07:42:38 AM
    Like my car friend says, don't fall in love with the inventory, and always be ready to sell something, it will let you buy something, you haven't had...

...or had, sold and now need for another project ;) Which has happened to me on a couple of occassion's... ::) So your friend, really, is right...everything has its price.

Quote from: Night Vision on October 06, 2007, 08:16:38 AM
for some reason, I find them easier to take apart, then to put back together  :-\

:) But that is going to be one sweeeeeeet "V" that your in the process of rebuilding N_V...A real head turner 8)



                       

 :) Ripped off the front end of #7, last night... :o

Still trying, not to hard, to find all those damn ball bearing's that "danced" around the garage floor... ::)

Stripped the fork's down...and thought "Ah, what the hell" and ripped apart the brake caliper, as well ::)

She now has a head full of tapered bearing's, a new set of fork seal's with fresh 15 weight fork oil and the caliper is rebuilt and ready to re-install, re-connect and bleed... 8)...maybe later to-day ;)

                 

Got a magnet on a telescoping wand?  Easiest way to collect them balls, even in places you can't see them.  Prolly turn up treasures that you forgot that you had, too...  And, after all, you've swapped in tapereds to replace them, so other than providing a recipe for skating around the garage while carrying something heavy...   ;)

Quote from: ironb12s on October 20, 2007, 03:18:51 PM
Prolly turn up treasures that you forgot that you had, too...

:) Not really... I only have a single car garage, that I sweep/vacuum weekly. I hate bit's and piece's of shite left laying around the place after each and any job I do, Vision or otherwise.
My parent's (& grandfather), where ex-armed force's, so my early year's where guided by... "A place for everything and everything in its place"... 8) but, as you say, having new taper's installed, I've no need of them 8)

:) Anyhow... #7 now has a new battery, purchased at Walmart yesterday, at a cross border shopping trip to Niagara Fall's New York with the wee woman ::)...$32.78...and a 1.5 amp float charger that has the "hard wire" lead for your "V"s battery and one with pos/neg crocodile clip's, for only $18.44 (BTW, the same battery here in a Canadian Walmart...$76.00...The same charger is $46.00... >:()

Premium plug wire's/plug cap's and new spark plug's are fitted, along with a "custom made" (in my garage), air filter 8). Rear drive oil is drained & changed...I think I'm going to need another winter project the way this is going :o ;D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

                       

Umm, Tiger, is that price at YOUR WallyWorld based on the CDN?  Or is it USD?

Quote from: Tiger on October 21, 2007, 08:46:43 AM
"A place for everything and everything in its place"...

Tiger's shop is the only shop I've ever seen where anybody could intuitively find their way around.... limited space kinda forces you to be tidy...... but those bins for bits n pieces are sweet!.... sure beats my coffee can full of um... stuff  ::)   

Quote from: Tiger on October 21, 2007, 08:46:43 AM
...I think I'm going to need another winter project the way this is going :o ;D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

oh, I bet lil'balster will need some more help... that'll slow 'ya down

Quote from: ironb12s on October 21, 2007, 03:43:41 PM
Umm, Tiger, is that price at YOUR WallyWorld based on the CDN?  Or is it USD?

American Walmart and American $$$$... :)

Quote from: Night Vision on October 21, 2007, 06:14:43 PM
but those bins for bits n pieces are sweet!....


oh, I bet lil'balster will need some more help... that'll slow 'ya down

:)...its sure handy when you sell hardware/chemical's/abrasive's, etc and storage container's, for a living, into maintenance dept's and garage/trucking shop's... ;) Makes my own shop a lot easier to manage ;D :D :D :D :D... 8)

:) Lil'Blasters going to need a lot of help with his winter project, me think's, for sure :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

                     

Quote
:) Anyhow... #7 now has a new battery, purchased at Walmart yesterday, at a cross border shopping trip to Niagara Fall's New York with the wee woman ::)...$32.78...and a 1.5 amp float charger that has the "hard wire" lead for your "V"s battery and one with pos/neg crocodile clip's, for only $18.44 (BTW, the same battery here in a Canadian Walmart...$76.00...The same charger is $46.00... >:()

THIS price comparo is what I was referring to.  The WallyWorld in YOUR backyard, not in NY.  Is the exchange rate that extreme these days?  No wonder folks were almost ecstatic when I was paying them USD on my last trek across ON...

Moreover, those "magnets on a wand" are great for getting stuff out from under stuff that you CAN'T vacuum under...   :D

(working ever harder towards that Senior rating....)

 :) The Canadian $$$ is actually worth more, at present, than the American $$$...($1.02976) :o 8) 8) 8)
Not enough to write home about ;D :D :D :D :D :D
The costs that I posted are the "on the shelf", before tax(s), price's that Walmart charge. So either Canadian's are getting shafted or American's are getting a great deal...depends on your point of view, eh!!

               

Quote from: Night Vision on October 06, 2007, 08:16:38 AM
for some reason, I find them easier to take apart, then to put back together  :-\

Amen to that.

Usually, I find more to be done than I'd planned on when I take things apart.  Just look at how my exhaust replacement on the Vision became a refinish project, now to be a reengineering of the charging system...

Yep, I concur, N_V....   :D

amazingly, I'm finding out that there's more to be done, than I'd planned, when putting them back together  ::)

 :) Did a wee bit more to-night... :)

Removed the battery box and disconnected the R/R from the back of it and at the two white plastic connection's.

Made a bracket out of 1" aluminum flat bar for the R/R. I removed the screw that hold the rear inner fender on the left side and installed the bracket at this point.

Cut off the white plastic connector's, (stator & R/R), re-connected, using 14ga, 8", bridging wire's...hard wired at the stator end but with fully insulated male/female spade connection's.

Installed a battery tender, quick connect pigtail, to the battery terminal...Yes, the new owner will be getting a battery tender as part of the deal 8)

Put her all back together, fired her up...everything seem's to be working O.K...Charging at 14.4 volt's 8)

                     

Wee bit more? :o That much would take me at least a week, if I didn't have to spend extra days fixin' the pooch screws I did along the way. :P

Quote from: Aelwulf on October 25, 2007, 07:30:27 AM
Wee bit more? :o That much would take me at least a week...

:) All in all, about 1 1/2 hour's...but remember, this is #4 on the rebuild list, so I've had a wee bit of practice... ;)

                     

Quote from: Tiger on October 25, 2007, 05:52:26 PM

Quote from: Aelwulf on October 25, 2007, 07:30:27 AM
Wee bit more? :o That much would take me at least a week...

:) All in all, about 1 1/2 hour's...but remember, this is #4 on the rebuild list, so I've had a wee bit of practice... ;)

Ya, and you have your's at arm's reach...   :(  It's tuff when you get the ideas and no way to try them.

Quote from: Tiger on October 25, 2007, 05:52:26 PM

Quote from: Aelwulf on October 25, 2007, 07:30:27 AM
Wee bit more? :o That much would take me at least a week...

:) All in all, about 1 1/2 hour's...but remember, this is #4 on the rebuild list, so I've had a wee bit of practice... ;)

Yeah, that's one reason I'm tempted to try a total teardown and rebuild.  That way hopefully I'd know everything that could be done had been done and I'd know about all the nooks in the crannies.  A friend of mine in high school got I think an 80s Corolla or something similar.  He bought it, drove it home and tore it down to base pieces.  It sat in pieces in his back yard for months slowly going back together but when it was done it was reliable and he knew all about it.  Unfortunately I barely have room to do an oil change anymore, let alone bike parts all over from a teardown. :(

 :) Aelwulf, my first "V"..."The Mistress", originally went into a shop when I got her...Full service/tune up/safety, etc, before I turned a wrench on her. She ran well BUT I spent $750.00 to get her there ::)
I vowed that, given that I have a garage, tool's and some mechanical knowledge, I would not do THAT again. This was well before I found the ROV site... ;)
Since I found the ROV site and its ever expanding family, I have had a certain amount of good fortune and fun, concerning "V"s... ::) ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I have made a lot of "Key board" and "direct contact" friend's because of our group. It is always a great pleasure to join in on ride day's/week-end's, with like minded people.
This site makes owning and wrenching on a Vision much, much easier...and sometimes, fun to... 8)

My advice, to every one new to his or her "V"... for what it is worth...Get to know your "V" by doing one job at a time, on a week-end... 8)
The simple things first...Oil/filter change(s) one week, plug's/wire's/cap's on another, etc...build this up a little at a time and your confidence will grow with your week-end maintenance...as your confidence grow's, then you can try something more demanding...Balancer nut to be tightened, starter clutch bolt's, fork oil seal's, whatever... 8)...but above all have fun with your Vision ;) 8)

                 

Yeah, kind of how I started with mine.  To get it running and all I had that guy in the Springs work on it (still need to post his info in case any others want/need it, he's apparently been a name in Yamaha off-road racing at one time judging from the walls of his garage).  I 'tipped' him about $20 an hour for the roughly 11 hours he worked on it, and paid for all the parts so it came out to just under $800.  He did good owrk and made some impromptu touches (such as adding a plastic cover for the fuse box I'm hoping will still fit over it with the new one).  I have tools for the most part and a modicum of mechanical experience (if I can work on $20 million+ jets I hope I can work on an old motorcycle), not much in garage space anymore but should be enough. So, we'll see... :) First job coming up will be the fuses.  Then probably the front end for the head bearings since I seem to need to replace the ones in the front wheel now as well if I'm hearing right.

I'm a lil late on this one but how 'bout "Black Betty"

.... oh oh black betty bama land...oooh oooh black betty bama land.....

;D

David

Quote from: DaveTN on October 29, 2007, 08:48:43 PM
I'm a lil late on this one but how 'bout "Black Betty"

.... oh oh black betty bama land...oooh oooh black betty bama land.....

;D

David

How about...NO, DaveTN ::) :D :D :D :D :D :D

Not many older rock songs I truly hate, but Black Betty is one of them!  Amazed they wasted the tape to record it.

Wise choice to disregard it, Tiger.

Still say you're wrong about "Polecat", though.   ;D

H₂O

 :) Yesterday, I decided to remove the MAC system as it leaked at the rear head ports...due to the fact that I didn't get it all lined up properly last time ::) So, off it came...Thinks I, you may as well remove the back wheel and change the tire as the sidewall's are all cracked...and you can check out the brake's, etc.
I removed the adjuster nut from the shitty looking rear brake rod...something just didn't look right with it ::) Then it dawned on me :o  Sometime in its life, the brake tensioner bar rear bolt must have let loose...the, whichever PO had straightened out the rear brake rod, you could see some of the "kink's" where it had been hammered out ::) But worse :o ...about three inches from the wee blimp in the bar that holds the adjuster spring at the adjuster end of the rod, the bar must have snapped!!! Some ingenious idiot had ground down two flats in the bar and welded it back together :o Off it came and into the garbage pile it went...A replacement I do have ;) On further inspection, yes he/she had replaced the bolt/nut...but left the front one alone ::) So I removed it and, yep, it was rusted to shit...more for the recycle bin ;)
I cleaned all the paint off of the ten' bar and "new" brake rod, put on a coat of red oxide primer and once dry, a coat of an industrial grade, aluminum enamel paint and left over night to dry/cure.

Removed the cotter pin, rear axle nut and spacer, knocked out the axle shaft which, once removed, was all badly rusted...recycle bin!!!

Tire, and balance weight, removed...no problem there, other than the inside of the rim needs a good clean before I mount another tire... ;)

So, my MAC system removal was really worthwhile...in the long run ::) ;D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

I'll clean up the rim, mount and balance the tire, clean out the brake drum and brake's and put the "rear end" back together, with new ten' bar nut's/bolt's and re-install the MAC's, (properly, this time!!!)...Sometime this week, but def' not tonight ::) ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

                 

Quote from: h2olawyer on November 12, 2007, 05:26:04 PM
Still say you're wrong about "Polecat", though.   ;D
H₂O

:P Raspberry sound effect please... :D :D :D... ;)

not too many black cat theme names left buddy... sheeesh

now, if you went with a DOG name.... you could call it Rottweiler
for all the rotten parts you're finding on it  ;D

 :) You mean...Rotten-for-a-while-eh!!! ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

:) I also forgot to mention that there was no brake pedal return spring and the brake light spring was about a foot to long... ::) ;D :D :D :D :D :D

             

Quote from: h2olawyer on November 12, 2007, 05:26:04 PM
Not many older rock songs I truly hate, but Black Betty is one of them!  Amazed they wasted the tape to record it.

Wise choice to disregard it, Tiger.

Still say you're wrong about "Polecat", though.   ;D

H₂O

I like the song but the lyrics can get a bit annoying after a bit. :P

 :) Cleaned the inside area of the rear wheel rim and mounted another tire. Washed down the rear brake drum, spring's, shoes, etc. Lub'd the brake shoe cam's. Washed out the rear drive area, dried down and re-lubricated. I'll re-install everything, once I've done the wheel balance... 8) "Little by little by little..."

                             

yes, should be getting a might nippy up in your neck of the woods, time to work on the bikes...  mebbe have #7 ready for a New Year's Day ride?  As early as Xmas?

Quote from: ironb12s on November 15, 2007, 04:10:24 PM
yes, should be getting a might nippy up in your neck of the woods, time to work on the bikes...  mebbe have #7 ready for a New Year's Day ride?  As early as Xmas?

:) Haven't ridden for three week's now, due to, in part, the weather...but also because I've had other thing's to do. However, I'll ride Lucky #7 ONLY when she is good & ready... :-\

                           

 :) Back wheel, brake tensioner bar, etc, all lubricated, as required, re-installed and working the way it should do. The MAC's are re-installed and have nooooo leak's...I used red high temp' silicone at all the joint's ;) Starts up and run's/sound's like a wee champion...Won't be long before she is ready to find a new home 8).

             

 :) Well, I haven't up-dated this thread for a wee while ::) So here goes...
"Lucky #7" is basically complete and ready for her new owner...Vadasz1...Yes, that guy who has been on an e-bay buying binge of late ::) :D :D :D :D Robert...a.k.a Vadasz, is new, not only to the Vision but to bikes in general.

I costed out the part's, new or otherwise, for him...and me!!...and for those who will embark, to some degree, on there project. I've also listed out the jobs completed were part(s) may not have been needed. What I have not added in are the man hours that have gone in to her... ::)

So, here goes...
1 x Owners handbook...................$20.00...(e-bay)
2 x new spark plug's.................$7.00.
2 x new plug cap's...................$14.00.
2 x new plug wire's...................$10.00.
1 x Sirius petcock rebuild kit...............$25.00.
1 x new in-line gas filter..................$4.00.
1 x new 30amp fuse holder...............$4.00.
4 x new, 10amp fuse holder's.............$15.00.
5 x new ato blade fuse's..................$5.00.
1 x new oil filter..............................$16.00.
1 x Castrol 4 stroke oil...............$15.00.
1 x new custom air filter.............$10.00.
1 x berrymans carb cleaner.........$3.00.
1 x new rear drive oil........................$10.00.
1 x new front fork seal kit....................$20.00.
1 x Fork oil (15w).......................$12.00.
1 x new OEM left side engine gasket...........$20.50.
1 x new exhaust gasket kit.................$10.00.
1 x used gauge cluster.......................$45.00.
1 x new set of steering head bearings..$45.00.
1 x set of new handlebar grips......$15.00.

This does not include incidentals, (wire connector's, wire, oil, grease, home made brackets, wire ties, etc) or Labour.

Remove & replace gauge cluster as the speedo was broken...(Actual kilometers: 16,070/10,043 mile's).
Remove, strip, clean, rebuild & reinstall front fork assembly.
Remove and replace steering head bearings with tapered top and bottom assemblies.
Remove, strip down, clean, rebuild, reinstall and bleed off front brake.
Remove left side engine cover, remove flywheel...Starter clutch fix done, torque down 46mm drive shaft & balancer shaft nut's...reinstall engine cover.
Move R/R to new "open" location.
Renew stator & R/R connection's.
Remove, strip, clean, rebuild and reinstall pet cock.
Remove and replace rear brake stabiliser bar fastener's.
Remove rear brake drum, clean and lube mechanism, reinstall and adjust.
Remove, flush out, lube & reinstall left side switch cluster.
Remove, flush out, lube & reinstall right side switch cluster
Replace rear tire, (used).
Replace battery. (1 year old battery from "The Mistress").
Replace one broken indicator.
Replace blown headlight bulb.

...that is all I can remember, up to now. I know there is more!! However, it will give you some idea of what has gone into "Lucky #7".

I know that Robert intends to give her a full paint job and install some of the parts that he has managed to accumulate...full fairing, '83 foot pegs/brake pedal/gear linkage, '83 front fork's, etc... 8)

For me, it is pleasing to know that another Vision has been restored and will be back on the road quite soon and bringing a smile to the face of another new owner... 8) 

         

p.s. The way this winter is going, we have more "project day's" than project!!! Hmmmmm, suppose I better keep an eye open for #8, eh!!  :o ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

                     

wow... what kind of $180/gal  :o fork oil are you using?

just because you put in a new seal, didn't mean you had to use baby seal Oil  ::)


sorry Brian, didn't mean to offend you

aawww screw it... I put it back in... I'm not a fan of political correctness...
nor an advocate of pun control laws  :P

Quote from: Night Vision on March 21, 2008, 04:51:12 PM
just because you put in a new seal, didn't mean you had to use Baby Seal Oil  ::)

That can't be left sitting out there.  I'm sorry, but that was really, really, terrible..

Brian (bad pun, no cookie.)

 :-[ Oooops, $12.00 for fork oil ::)

Disclaimer...No seals where injured in this rebuild ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I was taking about the pun.  Not the thought of baby seal oil...

It was the pun that was bad...  (which, for a pun, is not a bad thing...  A really bad pun is a good pun.  Or... )

Brian (who has been known to come up with bad puns on my own..., both tasteful and not so much...)

QuoteInstalled a battery tender, quick connect pigtail, to the battery terminal...Yes, the new owner will be getting a battery tender as part of the deal

Looking forward to the bonus mate.  I got things I can trade with you in the future for other stuff too.  You know me John, I got my fingers in many things............. ::)

Quote from: ironb12s on October 03, 2007, 07:51:33 PM
Naw, go right over the halfies, taken off of the old gasket.  I'll report back with findings next week...probably get to the task this Sunday or next Monday.

As it turned out, I did not get around to doing the valve adjust until this past May.  What I did with the RTV is use it to make the OEM gasket (reused) stick in the groove of the cover.  Then put a thin film of the RTV on the flat of the head.  I ended up having the cover off 3 more times, when the head cover bolts broke the threads loose from the fittings on the cam  journals.  I ended up putting helicoils in ALL of the fittings.  The RTV held the gasket in the cover, and I reapplied it each time on the flats of the head, no leaks and no squeeze-out.  Oh, and I repainted the head cover after treating it with oven cleaner.