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Rick G

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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2009, 09:40:24 PM »
He obviously hasn't seen Eletrex's application chart . The G7 stator fits quite a few bikes . Tiger posted a list a few days ago
« Last Edit: April 08, 2009, 10:01:56 PM by Rick G »
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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2009, 09:54:17 PM »
Tiger posted a list a few days ago

Here is a link to it  http://ridersofvision.net/forum/index.php?topic=10148.0  Thanks Ricky 8)

Just for the record, I installed a VIRAGO stator (used) in "The Mistress" three years ago!!! and she's still running great 8) (touch wood!!)

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« Last Edit: April 08, 2009, 09:58:10 PM by Tiger »
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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2009, 10:58:31 PM »
Rick...you didn't have to do any modifications to the wiring?
Not sure if I need one yet, but if I do, I would like to get one that has a good track record.

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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2009, 12:57:19 AM »
No modifications necessary. The Eletrosport (eletrex) one I bought came with out the multi plug and as I was going to hard wire it in , it was no problem. I have a used Viagra stator in reserve, in case I need it and it will bolt right in.
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Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there in lurks the skid demon
'82.5 Yamaha XZ550 RJ  Vision,
'90 Suzuki VX800, 1990 Suzuki DR350.
'74  XL350   Honda , 77 XL350 Honda, 78 XL350 Honda, '82 XT 200 Yamaha, '67 Yamaha YG1TK, 80cc trail bike

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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2009, 08:07:02 AM »
OOOPS....
I think that stator question was supposed to be directed at Tiger....

I've seen a few Virago stators on ebay, but I guess we are looking for '86 and up.

I was looking at the homemade manometer on Lucky's site. I don't see any valves like he shows in another homemade model with the vacuum gauge. And how does one know where to put the tape on the stick as a gauge point? Maybe the vacuum gauge is a better setup?....

Speaking of this stator problem....maybe someone who has had the unfortunate experience of swapping one out on the road should post a list of the necessary parts and tools to carry on a long trip. Just a thought.....
« Last Edit: April 09, 2009, 08:25:27 AM by musicweb »
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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2009, 09:39:40 AM »
I made/use a homemade manometer.. This is the deal,, I used heavy oil,, final rive oil, and I used restrictors in the lines,  funny, I just videoed it on youtube for a friend. check it out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLr96CaLt-4&feature=channel_page
I ramble but you can get the general Idea.
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1982 Virago XV920J........ free
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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2009, 09:41:49 AM »
where the liquid, or how much you put in,, is not important.. the goal is that its at the same place running.. not pulling either way.. its measuring how much vacuum pull is happening on each jug, so you can make them even..
I own:
1982 Maico 250 alpha 1... free
1982 Virago XV920J........ free
1982 Vision XZ550RJ....... 100.00
1972 BMW 75/5 W/toaster tank,  I babysit.
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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2009, 09:46:16 AM »
Thanks Funk.....

I'll check it out when I get home later.....

Also found my starter was oily.....surprised it was even turning!

Looking at the kits on ebay for $34.....anyone had experience with them?
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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2009, 11:02:00 AM »
I had some issues with my starter last year, and got a lot of advises regarding kits. I ended up rebuilding it without kit, but if it is oily, I guess that you need one.

Here is a lot of help to get. I would copied the url into the post, and ask for experiences with the kit that you link to - for there are more than one sort of kit out there...
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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2009, 03:31:14 PM »
yeah, easy stuff.. got a circlip pliers? You can do it, look at the parts diagram and read the posts on it, but, its easy stuff..clean your commutator with steel wool or something, and the spaces in between in the commutator..  nice shiny brass!! Clean all the remnants of your cleaning... Get the seal with the springs is what I read,, Ive only cleaned mine, I have the new seal on the way, so thats next,,,You'll probably be done before I know..
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1982 Maico 250 alpha 1... free
1982 Virago XV920J........ free
1982 Vision XZ550RJ....... 100.00
1972 BMW 75/5 W/toaster tank,  I babysit.
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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2009, 05:16:50 PM »
Use a fine sand paper to clean the surface of the commutator ( it should really be turned in a lathe, but you can get away without doing that, if its not deeply grooved) Take an old hacksaw blade , grind a hook on the backside , the side with no teeth. Pull the hook along the grooves in the commutator until the grooves are 8 to 10 thousandths below the surface of the commutator. Finish off with the wet or dry sandpaper.Clean the whole thing with alcohol.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2009, 05:41:48 PM by Rick G »
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'90 Suzuki VX800, 1990 Suzuki DR350.
'74  XL350   Honda , 77 XL350 Honda, 78 XL350 Honda, '82 XT 200 Yamaha, '67 Yamaha YG1TK, 80cc trail bike

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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2009, 05:20:56 PM »
ah,,, even better,, I have a seal coming,, Ill do THAT when I open her back up.. Man, nice to know this stuff,, you rock, Brother!! Thank you for letting me learn vicariously through your thread, musicweb!!
I own:
1982 Maico 250 alpha 1... free
1982 Virago XV920J........ free
1982 Vision XZ550RJ....... 100.00
1972 BMW 75/5 W/toaster tank,  I babysit.
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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2009, 09:23:46 PM »
OOOPS....
I think that stator question was supposed to be directed at Tiger....

 8) Nope, no mod's needed...straight forward wire in... 8)

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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2009, 11:12:31 PM »
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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2009, 06:07:53 AM »
 :) musicweb...I think I would go for it... 8) but thats just me!!  ;D :D :D :D :D :D... ;)

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Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming HOOOOYA lets go again baby !!!!!!

'82 Vision, Pearl Orange finish, lots of up-grades!!!

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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2009, 05:35:34 PM »
that's an RM Stator. you'd think they were made in Canada because that's were the "site" is... but I don't think so.

CDNLouie got one and said it looked very similar to the electrolux... probably made in china

I would either go for a Tim Parrot (we put one in my brother's Vision and it looked pretty good) or
go with a lightly used OEM one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/YAMAHA-NOS-STATOR-ASSEMBLY-XV750-XV920-XV-750-XV-920_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQhashZitem220224538862QQitemZ220224538862QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

haha... just kidding on that one.....

something like this yummy one: 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamaha-xv-750-xv750-virage-stator-altenator_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQhashZitem280311414635QQitemZ280311414635QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

hell, if I didn't need another spare, that one would be gone already

oh yeah, that's right.... there IS green insulation on the OEM Virago stators...


« Last Edit: April 10, 2009, 05:39:48 PM by Night Vision »
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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2009, 06:44:57 PM »
But that 2nd one doe not fall into the correct years for replacement as in the stator list.
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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2009, 08:45:09 PM »
true, it's not on the list.... it will physically fit, but there is a chance that the overall outer diameter is a couple of millimeters less.

that would be what I called the "low voltage" stator that I got 9k miles out of... it charges a wee low at idle, but I don't ride at idle... once past 1500 rpm or so, she'll give ya what you need.

your choice... $150 or  $35

if I can get 9k miles out of a $35 stator, I should be able to go 40k-50k miles for the cost of the other one.
it's a crap shoot...
'ya feeling lucky punk?  ;D
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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2009, 08:52:36 PM »
150.00??? I saw 580.40. Their trying to fund the whole retirement on one sale! :P :o :o :o :o
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'82.5 Yamaha XZ550 RJ  Vision,
'90 Suzuki VX800, 1990 Suzuki DR350.
'74  XL350   Honda , 77 XL350 Honda, 78 XL350 Honda, '82 XT 200 Yamaha, '67 Yamaha YG1TK, 80cc trail bike

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Re: Resurrecting a 1982 Vision....
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2009, 10:51:01 AM »
Happy Easter everyone!

Got the set of used carbs yesterday.....and they look good.
Took the tops off and very minor signs of dirt inside, no gumming.

Seller said the bike ran a little rough, and there was some dirt in a few passages.

Front pilot adj was out 6 turns, which is the one with the most dirt.
Rear pilot was only 1-1/2 turns out.

Took them all apart except for the drain fittings and butterflies, to get ready for a 30 minute soak when my Berrymans arrives tommorrow.

Kept all parts from each carb separated....noticed different jets in each one.

I'll do some shots of carbclean in all passages before soaking.

Anything else I should be looking for?
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