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Craig Vetter Challenge, 5/13/2011, ridealong

Started by darkvision, May 10, 2011, 03:29:03 PM

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Hi, I'm going to ride my motorcycle down to Carmel ( from SF Bay Area ) on the morning of 5/13/2011 to observe and ride along with the competitors of the Craig Vetter Challenge fuel economy competition. I thought about entering but I wasn't able to put together a competitive package for my motorcycle. So instead I'll go observe and learn from the masters. It should be a lot of fun. If you want to join me , please let me know either here or send me a PM. I'll be sure to take pictures and report back.
all the best , Dark V

AdvRich

Great riding area and cool event. Sounds like a good time Dark V! Sadly, I'm about 3k to the East.... pics are always good though.

Coil Coyle

Hmmm... ???

I could swap Friday for Saturday, we need to do some production valve maintenance. I've read about the 100mpg "Freedom Machine" law he's promoting and followed the old economy run in the mags.

I'll know more in 24 hrs after talking to my manager.

There's a guy in San Jose who needs a fixed flywheel and a starter dropped off that I could do the same trip.

Tomorrow.
;)
Coil

supervision

  That's cool, I didn't know it's on again.      I ran that in 82 & 83. The first year, I was on my 750 Honda Sabre, I got first place in my class won 300 bucks. The following year I rode my CB77 Honda Superhawk, in a much more difficult class, didn't make the cut for the on track run off.
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Coil Coyle

That's cool, SV.
8)

Redwood Hill Farm Creamery just received our new "low shear" centrifugal milk receiving pump early, the Waukesha has been hammering ever since I hired out . I'm stuck installing the drive as the contractors do the pipe and plumbing so I've got to pass, DV.

Thanks for bringing the mileage ride to our attention.

I really like his 100mpg "Freedom Machine" with no speed limit, handicap parking, no liability damages and no helmet. I hope you get some pictures of his Honda Scooter "Mule" that was in CAD, "Cardboard Aided Design" for the cycle article.

Coil

darkvision

very cool SV!  It should be interesting tomorrow.  I'm planning to ride the course ( except for the laps at Laguna Seca )  to see how my V does.
Coil, too bad you couldn't make it tomorrow , I'll try to get lots of pictures .
all the best  Dark V 

darkvision

The 2011 Vetter Challenge
I left at 5:45 AM for the 120 mile ride down to Carmel. It was the first long ride I had done with my new tail section/Kammback and side panels.  The ride down was fine other than missing the exit for the Monterey peninsula.  I filled up in Carmel and got 54 mpg for the trip, OK but nothing earth-shattering.
I located the Quail Lodge which is a beautiful resort with golf course and there were the assembled vintage and unique motorcycles ready for the Quail Run.  The centerpiece of the display was the Vetter streamlined Honda Helix scooter.  I recognized Craig Vetter and spoke with him about how much interest there was on his work and the Vetter challenge from the hypermiling community. He spent a lot of time showing me the streamliner and his intention of developing kits so that motorcyclists could easily assemble their own streamlined bikes. A new development was the use of lighter sheeting that is the same material used to make milk cartons. It is an incredible machine.
Craig Vetter is obviously a brilliant designer but I was also impressed by how nice he and his wife Carol were. For me, meeting Craig Vetter was like a Beatles fan meeting John Lennon.
I also met the other Vetter Challenge competitors: Alan Smith with his modified Ninja 250, Treven Baker with his unique diesel motorcycle, Josh and Fred Hayes and their stunning Hayes diesel motorcycles.  They were friendly, generous with their time and information and were a pleasure to interact with as well. The passion and enthusiasm of this group was contagious. Craig invited me to ride in the competition and I was honored to do so.
The Quail Run had about 150 motorcycles separated into 2 groups with the older classic motorcycles leaving first, then the faster more modern group second. We rode in the second group.  The ride was fabulous, going through the twisty back roads of the Monterey hills and farm country at a somewhat spirited pace.  The Vetter Challenge doesn't allow for the slower pace and coasting needed to provide the highest fuel economy numbers; it is a test of efficiency in real world conditions with hills, high winds and the need to keep up the pace of a group. We stopped during the 120 mile ride to visit with at-risk youngsters at Rancho Cielo and then proceeded to Mazda Raceway (formerly Laguna Seca) where we rode a lap around the racetrack. We had a delicious lunch on the hills overlooking the racetrack. A great day of motorcycling!
We proceeded to the designed gas station for refueling and documentation of the fuel cost and mileage. I averaged about 56 mpg and was last among the 6 competitors.  During the ride my right side coroplast panel came loose while doing 75 mph and was flapping around until we stopped at Rancho Cielo where I was able to get it reattached.  Fred Hayes' diesel got the best fuel economy and the lowest cost with the Fred Hayes using less than a gallon for 120+ mile run. I don't know if that would be the official winner as I'm not sure if it could hold the required 4 bags of groceries but very impressive.  Treven Baker was second with 110 mpg on his unique bike and no aerodynamic enhancements. I should have calculated all the competitor's results but unfortunately didn't. I was the only competitor that used over 2 gallons, Fred less than 1 gallon, everyone else using a gallon and some fraction more.  Diesel efficiency seemed to win the day over gasoline power and more advanced aerodynamics.

Alan, Treven, Craig and I then rode to Craig's shop where we took some pictures and visited together a bit. They were getting ready for their displays at the Quail Gathering. I thanked them for sharing this wonderful experience and rode back home to Livermore. The ride was fine except for another issue with the right panel but I fixed it pretty easily.
What a great day! I think I will be back next year.

supervision

 Way to go, sounds like an outstanding time.
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VisionMeister

Thanks for giving the Vision representation at the event.
Sounds like it was a lot of fun and a great opportunity to see some out of the ordinary motorcycles, as in one off engineering specials and pristine vintage bikes at Quail Lodge.
I would like to have made the trip to Quail but my work load and finances are taking a toll on my free time. With two daughters driving (both with accidents this last winter) and in tuition schools, I'm struggling to find time and resources to ride much.
I saw the Vetter Challenge at Laguna in the mid 80's and it was an interesting event. Slightly ahead of its time, as Craig Vetter has always been.