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Started by Ron_McCoy, December 19, 2023, 12:04:06 PM

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Ron_McCoy

I was having starting problems, starter seemed to be laboring to crank engine over. I replaced the battery, but I was still not happy with how it started. I checked the resistance of the wire to the starter solenoid and it was 95 ohms, way too high. I jumped from the fuse box to the solenoid, bypassing all the safeties in the system, and it starts at the push of the button. I haven't found the source of the resistance yet, but it's never started like this even when it was new. Just push the stater button and it's running. Something to think about if you're having Vision starting problems.



jefferson

Are you talking high resistance on the large wire coming from the battery to the solenoid? As long as the solenoid is energized the only way to lessen energy to the starter is with poor connections or cables from the battery to the solenoid and then from there to the starter. It sounds like you're saying the solenoid isn't being energized enough to pass electrical flow to the starter.
First place I would look for a problem would be the side stand switch.

fret not

On one of my Visions I found corrosion in the heavy cable to the starter.  Maybe battery acid oozed/sprayed around at some time?
These bikes are a bit long in the tooth, so there are many things that could be aging / accumulating / happening.  THIS is the meat of the trip/process.  The older it becomes the more Zen.  Not yet the level of archeology, but still requiring some preventive maintenance/coddling/prayers/ and intellectual involvement.
Retired, on the downhill slide. . . . . . . . still feels like going uphill!

Ron_McCoy

The resistance is in the circuit that energizes the solenoid. I've already removed the side stand switch.
I'm thinking that there is so much resistance involved in energizing the starter solenoid that it takes current from the TCI like trying to start with a low battery. It does crank over a little better, but the big improvement is that it starts as soon as it cranks over. The improvement is dramatic.

fret not

So, what did you do?  Was the problem in the solenoid?  Maybe the wires connecting it?  Or in the starter button on the handlebar?  Being old and fading I need a bit more specific information of what you did and what parts needed 'fiddling'.  Thanks.
Retired, on the downhill slide. . . . . . . . still feels like going uphill!

Ron_McCoy

What I've done is ride my Vision every chance I get. The problem is in the safety circuit that keeps the starter from functioning unless the transmission is in neutral or clutch is pulled and side stand is up. I just bypassed that circuit. I was riding before these safeties came along and don't miss them. Having owned my bike for 42 years and now having it start right up like a normal bike fo the first time, I'm not highly motivated to troubleshoot that circuit at the moment. The biggest problem would be trying to start it in gear without pilling in the clutch lever so I may put that switch back in the circuit.

fret not

Ron, thanks for the explanation.  It helps understand the situation.
Retired, on the downhill slide. . . . . . . . still feels like going uphill!