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Sintered Pads
« on: March 25, 2007, 01:27:03 AM »
What's the deal with Sintered Pads?  Dennis Kirk lists as 'for track use only'.  It also says not to use them if not originally equipped with sintered pads.
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Re: Sintered Pads
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2007, 01:29:56 AM »
ok im lost.     




whats a sinterd pad?

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Re: Sintered Pads
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2007, 01:32:57 AM »
Sintered pads refer to brake pads.  On bikes that didn't have them originally, the harder, grippier pad material will wear out the rotor fairly quickly.  I put some sbs pads on mine when I went to the dual discs.  They work great.  The EBCs are good as well.

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Re: Sintered Pads
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2007, 01:37:21 AM »
I am looking for the grippiest pad I can get without wearing through the rotor quickly....probably isnt too big of a deal to have to replace it after 5 yrs but dont want it eating it in a season or 2..

I saw the sintered, kevlar, ceramic, and what I assume as 'regular' listed on dennis kirk
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Re: Sintered Pads
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2007, 02:11:49 AM »
The description for the DP sintered pads says safe for all OEM rotors.  There are quite a few 82 rotors around so you can replace it if it does wear too fast.  Might be worth the try.  I read the same warning about not using the sintered pads so I followed the advice.  Didn't want the cheapest, either.  Followed 1/2 my heritage & got the ones from Scandanavia.  OK - the pads are from Denmark & my ancestors are Swedish - at least the company name was close.

With the braided steel lines & sbs pads, the brakes work great.  Granted, that's on dual discs & I went from entirely OEM 82 front brakes to the 83 setup & braided lines so I don't have anything really to compare them to.  Managed to get the system bled very well, though.  Can't get the lever to touch the foam grip, no matter how hard I squeeze.  The speedbleeders and braided lines are responsible for that.  Were kind of sensitive at first - took some getting used to.

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« Last Edit: March 25, 2007, 02:19:51 AM by h2olawyer »
If you have an accident on a motorcycle, it's always your fault. Tough call, but it has to be that way. You're in the right, and dead -on a bike. The principle is not to have any accident. If you're involved in an an accident, it's because you did not anticipate. Then, by default, you failed.

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Re: Sintered Pads
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2007, 02:27:48 AM »
Im running braided lines too so I am hoping for the greatest possible braking for that system.  I doubt it will be sensitive compared to the Spring though....I am quite sure the progressive springs will be in order soon to compensate for greater braking.
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Re: Sintered Pads
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2007, 02:48:12 AM »
I haven't gone with the progressives yet but if I don't have air in the forks, the front dives pretty severely in panic stops.  Even with 8PSI, there's still some dive.

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Re: Sintered Pads
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2007, 03:01:36 AM »
Has there been positive feedback with the progressives?  Is there a more agressive approach to the front end dive?  I dont want to start the old front end debates up btw.  I am less concerned with a cushy ride than having the best braking and front end suspension matchup.  I may have an aftermarket monoshock on my non-running vision to swap out to the runner.  Has a blue spring but not sure about the guts of the shock.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2007, 03:35:28 AM by kwells »
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Re: Sintered Pads
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2007, 03:46:15 AM »
I think supervision has done some revalving to his forks - VisionMeister may have as well.  You might contact them to find out more.  I believe there was a thread fairly recently.

I hear the progressives do help the dive problem, but I don't know to what degree.  They don't tend to bottom out nearly as readily when riding over bumps at slower speeds.  Like the name suggests, they start fairly cushy & get progressively stiffer.  The OEM springs don't have nearly as much progressivity built into them.

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Re: Sintered Pads
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2007, 09:13:22 AM »
In my opinion, for what it's worth, the progressive springs are a good addition, so are the gold valves, but the springs alone will help with front end dive.

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Re: Sintered Pads
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2007, 10:43:05 AM »
just an FYI, while i'd like progressive springs, a bit longer spacer in my 83 front end, & a balance tube between the forks has all but eliminated the dive except under the harshest braking.  i keep the air pressure around 11psi with me on it.

the 83 springs are longer than the 82's (or my old ones were really shot)
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Re: Sintered Pads
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2007, 11:12:49 AM »
Those old springs got tired from hauling you around so much!   ;D

(I can say that as I'm a little 'bulky' myself.)

If I get over 10 PSI in my forks, I tend to get a little oil seepage out of the right fork.  Will be replacing the seals this spring anyway - maybe that will cure it.

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Re: Sintered Pads
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2007, 11:13:32 AM »
The difference between the normal springs (admittedly with 40,000 miles on them) is that they feel about the same with a little bit of movement (my bouncing on them in the garage) but the progressives really take more force to compress as you get to the bottom.

I haven't had a chance to ride them yet.

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